--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wish the Christians would stop saying that their way is better than > anyone > else's. It gets very boring, and it is untrue. All people can really > say about the > spiritual path they adopt is, "It works for me," and I wish they > would leave it at > that.
I think it's more than just "boring"...I think it's the epitome of the very evil that they are trying to convince us we are on the side of for not accepting JC. Can you imagine the Son of God condemning 80% of humanity to burn in hell for all eternity because they don't ascribe to the perverted and twisted interpretation of a part of the Bible that was never meant to be used as a recruiting marketing ploy? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "kjdruhl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear friends, > > > > I apologize for the long delay in responding to your postings about > > the PBS feature. Where to start? I don't want this to be a > > theological discussion. What we are talking about is grounded in > > experience and relationship; it is my experience of relationship > > with Christ. Still, that experience has been based on my > > understanding of who Christ is, who I am and what the nature of our > > relationship can be. > > > > So what about TM would prevent me from accepting Jesus as my one > and > > only Savior? Two things: For one the teaching that my spiritual > > situation is one of ignorance, not of sin. There is no concept of a > > savior or of salvation in the Vedic teachings, because there is no > > concept of sin, nothing one needs to be saved from. There is a > place > > for a teacher in this, but no place for a Savior. > > > > Jesus Christ declared Himself to be the Savior and eternal Judge of > > the world. He declared that there was no way to God except Him, > that > > He was the eternal I AM, Jehovah. So, He is either God, as He said > > and as many witnesses testified, or He was insane, or He was Satan. > > If what He said was not true, He was either out of His mind (and > > this is what the religious Jews said), or He knowingly led millions > > and millions of people into spiritual deception, a satanic > > undertaking. No founder of any religion that I am aware of ever > made > > the claims that He made, neither did any perform the miracles that > > He did, neither did any extend healing and forgiveness freely to > > everyone who asked for it. > > > > What then did Christ save me from, what was my sin? I could come up > > with many instances of sinful behavior in my life, and would still > > miss the point. My sin is my state of separation from God, my > > spiritual pride and self-centeredness, my attempt to usurp the > place > > of God and exalt myself to be the ruler. Does not that sound > > familiar, to those of us who have been promised to become the > > masters of natural law? And is not this the core of Satan's lie to > > man, that he can become like God? > > > > So, what evidence is there for one side or the other? I must > confess > > that I cannot find much if any empirical evidence for the divine > and > > universal nature of unredeemed man, but overwhelming evidence for > > his evil nature. And I can also report that I am seeing in myself > > and others the great cleansing and healing power of Christ, as I am > > yielding myself to His Lordship over my live. An intimately > personal > > working of Christ in me, an ongoing transformation in my heart that > > only God can do. > > > > This then brings us to the second point of separation: the > spiritual > > practice. The Christian spiritual practice is a matter of the will: > > the will to submit to the Lordship of Christ and His working in me. > > This is an ongoing commitment that I need to renew daily in > freedom, > > as my relationship with Christ expands and as His nature overtakes > > more and more of my mind, will and emotions. So, no technique is > > required. Rather, techniques have to be excluded as being a means > to > > assert self-rule over the rule of Christ. > > > > The Christian "techniques" of quiet prayer, that are often > > mentioned, are not techniques at all, but are modes of communion > > with Christ. It matters with whom you commune and in what spirit, > > not what you say and how often. > > > > To answer sparaig's question: No, TM doesn't prevent God from > making > > a connection. God is making connections all the time, to every > human > > being. But it does prevent the individual from receiving the > > fullness of it. God respects your free will, and He never imposes > > Himself on you. The choice is yours, communion with your Savior and > > Lord, or assertion of self. > > > > So much for now. > > > > Sincerely > > > > Kai ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> <font face=arial size=-1><a href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h59pb92/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123700423/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page</a></font> --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! 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