"Similarly, the potentially disruptive activities of millennial religious or communal movements (which in Hagopian's framework are classed as "revolts") also may develop in "revolutionary" or "non-revolutionary" directions, depending upon their goals and on the context within which their protest develops."
"When do Millennial Religious Movements become Politically Revolutionary?" - (Communal Studies Association vol 31,1 2011) Lawrence Foster --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote: > > "Before considering these important questions, a working definition of > "polictical revolution" first is necessary. The definition of political > revolution used in this article is drawn primarily from Crane Brinton's > classic comparative study, Anatomy of Revolutions... > > Brinton argues that for such an overthrow or attempted overthrow to be > considered "revolutionary" the leaders of the movement must also seek to > initiate major changes in the structure of government (as opposed to simply > who is running it), as well as in economic life, social relationships, and > ideological or religious beliefs." > > "When do Millennial Religious Movements become Politically Revolutionary?" - > Lawrence Foster > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote: > > > > Evidently it's true, that (Maharishi) > > > > "[Noyes] with (Transcendental Meditation) evidently ably utilized the wide > > range of social and financial connections at his disposal to create a > > millennial group that skillfully pursued its objectives with in American > > society for more than three (five) decades." "... might appear as extreme > > at first sight, the group is actually a remarkable example of how a > > millennial group can successfully develop its own distinctive identity, > > while avoiding destructive confrontation with larger society." > > -"When do Millennial Religious Movements Become Revolutionary?:" - > > Lawrence Foster > > (Communal Studies Association vol 31,1 2011) > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote: > > > > > > This is us? > > > > > > > > > > This is us? > > > > > > > "Millennial religious and communal movements typically anticipate > > > > > > > the > > > imminent and literal end of what they view as a profoundly wicked, corrupt > > > existing world order and its replacement by a glorious "new heaven and new > > > earth," in which "the first shall be last and the last first, " Describing > > > millennial groups this way implies that they must be inherently > > > "revolutionary" > > > in their underlying goals and their impact upon the larger social order > > > that > > > they criticize so harshly" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Describing millennial movements in this way implies that they must be > > > inherently "revolutionary"... > > > > ...This article will argue, instead, that the complex trajectories of > > > millennial movements may lead them to two quite different directions > > > -either > > > toward increasing accommodation with the larger society, on the one hand, > > > or > > > toward escalating conflict and confrontation that typically results in the > > > group's dispersal or violent suppression by political power holders, on > > > the > > > other." > > > > > > > > > > -"When do Millennial Religious Movements Become Revolutionary?:" - > > > Lawrence Foster > > > (Communal Studies Association vol 31,1 2011) > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Choose your millenarian end-of-days and descent of Heaven on Earth. > > > > However, surveying the 60 years of Maharishi and TM in the West or even > > > > just the 4 decades of TM in Iowa the TM movement as a millenarian > > > > movement has tried everything and has both accommodated the larger > > > > culture, been suppressed some, and even dispersed. And it has changed > > > > the larger culture some too. Evidently was revolutionary in its time > > > > too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yep. Well of course there is a whole spectrum. Some of us are and > > > > > > some are not. Recently I saw Bevan and his people who are around > > > > > > him at a meeting and also I've directly watched and heard him speak > > > > > > within the year a couple of times, and yes they evidently are > > > > > > millenarian. Millennial-ist. To the extent that he and they have > > > > > > been the right hand of the TM movement all these years and decades, > > > > > > then yes it is. Essentially the TM movement and TM has been and is > > > > > > theirs now. Certainly TM as a movement is communal at their level > > > > > > and millennial from the inside at that level. If it walks like a > > > > > > duck and quacks like one, then... in modern times, TM's a > > > > > > millenarian movement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Dedicated millenarians -inspired by their intense emotional > > > > > > > commitment to goals they view as cosmically important and by > > > > > > > their "true believer" millenarian rhetoric- often seek to assist > > > > > > > the divine process of transformation in which they believe they > > > > > > > are participating by taking matters into their own hands rather > > > > > > > than passively waiting for God to inaugurate His kingdom on > > > > > > > earth. Initially, such movements may engage in relatively quiet > > > > > > > and largely non-confrontational efforts to withdraw from what > > > > > > > they view as the wicked world around them, in order to try to > > > > > > > create purer, more communally cohesive groups in preparation for > > > > > > > the anticipated millennial kingdom." > > > > > > > - Lawrence Foster, Journal of the Communal Studies Association > > > > > > > vol31:1,2011 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes > > > > > > > > are we millennialists? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is us? > > > > > > > > "Millennial religious and communal movements typically > > > > > > > > anticipate the imminent and literal end of what they view as a > > > > > > > > profoundly wicked, corrupt existing world order and its > > > > > > > > replacement by a glorious "new heaven and new earth," in which > > > > > > > > "the first shall be last and the last first, " Describing > > > > > > > > millennial groups this way implies that they must be inherently > > > > > > > > "revolutionary" in their underlying goals and their impact upon > > > > > > > > the larger social order that they criticize so harshly" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Describing millennial movements in this way implies that they must > > > > > be inherently "revolutionary"... > > > > > ...This article will argue, instead, that the complex trajectories of > > > > > millennial movements may lead them to two quite different directions > > > > > -either toward increasing accommodation with the larger society, on > > > > > the one hand, or toward escalating conflict and confrontation that > > > > > typically results in the group's dispersal or violent suppression by > > > > > political power holders, on the other." > > > > > > > > > > Lawrence Foster , Journal of the Communal Studies Association v31-1, > > > > > 2011 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" <geezerfreak@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, oh......you just confirmed to Buck (and no doubt Tex) > > > > > > > > > > > that >you're in on it too Rick. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rick, in meditator typology? Naw, i know Rick, he's one of > > > > > > > > > > them progressive maoist meditators. Like Hagelin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As in: "...those who envision a gradually improving world > > > > > > > > > > (progressive millennialists--Shakers, some Marxists, many > > > > > > > > > > mainline Christian denominations, etc.). Your > > > > > > > > > > perfectionists fall within progressive millennialism, in > > > > > > > > > > this typology. <snip> > > > > > > > > > > Viewed broadly, TM and Maoism share a few certain > > > > > > > > > > characteristics as millennial movements. Of course, they > > > > > > > > > > diverge widely in theory, methods, and understanding of > > > > > > > > > > human nature. Maoism is significantly different on the > > > > > > > > > > violence meter, as well, but shares the TM movement's > > > > > > > > > > longing for (and expectation of) a perfect world." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In progressive millenial perfectionism to the end > > > > > > > > > > Jai Adi Shankara, > > > > > > > > > > -Buck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
