The conclusion I have come to regarding the desire we all share for the world, or one of its specific domains, to all Make Sense is a desire for comfort in the heart, not really figuring out how all the pieces of the puzzle fit together intellectually.
If we are mostly at peace with ourselves, than any set of ideas that we happen to adopt for the moment will make sense, will feel "right". Paradoxically, we cannot think our way into everything making sense. It is instead more of an emotional journey, dealing with feelings, vs. constructions of thought. The end result of such a desire appears to be peace of mind, although having it all Make Sense never occurs, except perhaps moment by moment. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@...> wrote: > > You are welcome. Yes it is a huge relief "taking it as it comes", vs. > interpreting everything through a filter of stories in order for everything > to "make sense". > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "noah" <wayback71@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@> wrote: > > > > > > "if they could go back and forth between Enlightenment and normal > > > everyday unawakened being, what would they choose and for how long? And > > > how would their family and peers rate them in both states, if they did > > > not know which was which?" > > > > > > Great questions! The first one is so obvious, as I remember clearly > > > before waking up, I always had so many stories in my head and a > > > persistent feeling of alienation. I guess everyone's state of ignorance > > > is different but I wouldn't return to it for anything, and I mean > > > anything. Such a waste of time and energy compared to my life now. Its > > > not like everything is dreamy and groovy now. Same challenges, perhaps > > > even tougher ones, but at least there is a freshness and immediacy to > > > everything. Someone described it as getting out of our own way, which > > > sounds like a win/win at first until you realize there is no fallback to > > > anything. Freedom is a one way ticket. Still, despite the fleeting > > > insecurity of knowing I am formless and universal, I wouldn't trade this > > > ongoing perspective on my life and living for anything. Going back to > > > that past would be hellish and weird, and basically incomprehensible. > > > After all how can someone reconnect with a patently false identity? > > > > > > Regarding family and peers, I get along great with them, despite very > > > trying circumstances sometimes. Probably because I have no reason to > > > judge others, and categorize them, and make up stories about their lives > > > and motivations. Like I said, perhaps other people don't do this much > > > anyway. I did, and so the change is striking. > > > > > > As for being awake without the knowledge of god and gurus and whatever, I > > > can't really say, except that rather than devoting myself to something I > > > cannot experience with my senses, I experience everything directly now. > > > > > > Thanks for asking. > > > > > Thank you for this reply. I wanted to hear it from someone experiencing it > > fulltime. It does confirm what I experienced if only briefly a few times > > and as I said, it was no long enough to be able to get used to it and > > reflect on it. I especially relate to the "experience everything directly" > > and not making up sories and having a storyline running not only about > > others but yourself. What a relief that must be. Thanks again. > > >
