Good take. Yes, most people are far more complex in their opinions than to be taken in by some TM ex movie. The TBs that Turq and Vaj rail against are a lot closer to them than either thinks; hard core fundamentalists both.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote: > > Well, "the movement has nothing to do with the Knowledge", as someone was > saying in line at Cafe Paradiso waiting for coffee. > > I just saw the "David Wants to Fly" video and it certainly is full of > paradox. It started off good and then got negative. We know all that stuff > in much greater detail from reading FairfieldLife over the years. As much as > Turqb and Vaj revere 'David' as some iron stake that will put an end to TM, I > found the movie boring given all that we do know and all that we have > reconciled here. 'David' was way too edited. > > People have their experience with the movement and meditating and figure it > out for themselves. The movement is not going to go entirely away anytime > soon. Evidently on the strength of the science and the experience the > meditation is going on. People obviously are filtering the dissonance for > themselves. In the larger free market of ideas it is nice to have 'David' > out there as critique for the present day movement to live with. It's like > giving a mirror for them to look at themselves in as they go on. That's good > and they'll be better for it. > > -Buck > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@> wrote: > > > > Hi, it is not really using negativity as a means for growth. It is just > > simply seeing it for what it is and continuing on. One thing that makes the > > negative elements of life seem scary is that we often don't face them > > directly. The more we push them away and distract ourselves from them, they > > gain power in our minds. Once they are seen for their shock and > > unpleasantness, even within us, they lose much of their impact and power. > > It is a similar process to the greater power we give to positive things in > > our lives as a result of anticipation and memory. To see ourselves as we > > are is quite an amazing, captivating and lovely sight. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@> wrote: > > > > > > > > The thing I don't get is who expects the TMO and the Rajas and > > > > Maharishi to be perfect? That every lecture will be riveting, that > > > > every course will be a mega breakthrough for all, blue skies all the > > > > way? That there is a program that brings instantaneous sublime peace to > > > > us immediately, every time? > > > > > > > > This is hard work, as hard as it is enjoyable; the unraveling of > > > > ourselves, to be reconstituted after light has penetrated every facet > > > > of our being. Every part of us, inside and out, seen for what it is. > > > > The 20 minutes twice a day TM was the easy part, the mechanical > > > > grinding away of the ever-present top soil, the unknotting of the > > > > body-mind. > > > > > > > > Then we are left with ourselves, eyelids dissolved, silent, naked, > > > > healthy, clear, and balanced, looking innocently into us. The > > > > expression "here and now" can be said easily enough, but to integrate > > > > all the pieces of our experience that we are now exposed to, to live > > > > the inherent perfection of the system is more challenging. Always a > > > > moving target, and yet one that can be apprehended with silence and > > > > grace. > > > > > > > > > Beautiful and yet scary. > > > > > > Once Maharishi mentioned that for Brahman to be lived everything must > > > experienced and digested including everything we today perceive as > > > darkness. > > > From what I know that was the first time he mentioned negativity as a > > > means for a growth. > > > > > > The audience were all long-timers and Maharishi certainly gave us a cigar > > > that evening :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because the so-called dark sides amounts to nothing, it's dark in > > > > > your little beer-drowned consciousness. That's all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While I understand Oprah's tendency to buy into > > > > > > Woo Woo, what I don't understand is her support > > > > > > staff's failure to clue her in to some of the > > > > > > darker sides of the TMO, such as the robes and > > > > > > crowns, > > > > > > > > > > What's wrong with that ? Being a so-called Buddhist and someone who > > > > > thinks that world famous Lama is a good guy should be accustomed to > > > > > crowns&robes by now. > > > > > > > > > > murder on the MUM campus, > > > > > > > > > > 1 murder by some unbalanced fellow in a place that has housed > > > > > hundreds of thousands of people during the last 40 years amounts to > > > > > nothing. > > > > > > > > > > banning people > > > > > > > > > > It's not a crime. If you want to get in you follow the rules. Or go > > > > > somewhere else. Any workplace, any organizations has rules. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The darkness is in your brain only :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
