--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain <no_reply@...> wrote:
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> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I agree that taking full responsibility for my thoughts and actions is 
> > for me and me alone. Beyond that, we are all One - I agree with this 
> > completely, that the stuff that makes up a tartbrain or a whynotnow7 or a 
> > Haj is fundamentally the same - far more the same than different. 
> > 
> > However there is also the paradox of investigating whatever differences we 
> > may find in this Oneness, while never losing sight or contact with the 
> > Oneness. That is what I enjoy, and the only way I can see to fulfill my 
> > obligation to myself as a human being. Sure, We Are All One, and I enjoy 
> > investigating the fractions too.
> > 
> 
> Do you find things to be more of an understanding? Taking responsibility, 
> agreeing, fulfilling obligations, investigating/analyzing have the flavor of 
> understandings. 

Fundamentally? no. I tend to operate fundamentally on my intuition. It is 
easier on the mind. Otherwise, in the course of daily life, sure, and money 
helps, like at the supermarket, or doing my job.
> 
> The intensity of lovebliss of being, not this being or that being, I find 
> precludes casting harsh distinctions. At times your statements do not 
> compute. But there are any number of things that I don't understand -- and 
> are not things I seek or need to resolve. Simply more that some things are 
> left to evaporate into wonder.  
> 
> That is why I asked, paraphrasing, does that blossom to seeing Haj as 
> yourself, fundamentally, deeply, unshakably? That neither Haj nor anything 
> else is outside of you, lovebliss permeating?
> 
It seems like you are building a condition where a certain intensity of 
"lovebliss of being"  stands outside of "casting harsh distinctions". 

I prefer to think of the distinctions I make as precise at the time. If they 
are perceived as harsh as well, it is none of my business, beyond my control. 
What am I supposed to do about that? 

As for Haj, its not a condemnation of him in some absolute sense. It is calling 
him out for some of the crap he spreads around, that I personally feel like 
responding to, because I am given an allotment of 50 posts a week to do so 
here. 

Is there a problem?

> >  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jed McKenna, who's books I respect, makes mention of ten year olds 
> > > > > > in sixty year old bodies. That is what Haj, as I call him, reminds 
> > > > > > me of.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Seeing pilgrimage to Mecca in all is good. Does that blossom to 
> > > > > seeing Haj within yourself? That neither Haj nor anything else is 
> > > > > outside of you? Is that experience lovebliss?
> > > > > 
> > > > > >Spectacularly underdeveloped emotionally and psychologically, so 
> > > > > >that he is reduced to playing children's games in the company of 
> > > > > >adults.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes, that parable is wonderful isn't it. The innocence of children 
> > > > > and that state of wonder, amazement, awe, no categories, eternally 
> > > > > fresh and vibrant, being the gateway to the natural state -- the 
> > > > > threshold of heaven available here and everywhere. Pray adults learn 
> > > > > from children.
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Heh - A critical difference 
> > > 
> > > Differences have their place.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > between being child-like, and childish. I find Vaj as an adult to be a 
> > > > childish dolt. 
> > > 
> > > Seeing momentary distinctions (whether the projections are chidish dolts 
> > > or Shiva) within oneself, seeing everything as love bliss, is natural and 
> > > wonderful. 
> > > 
> > > > I would never equate my child's innocence and wonder as she grows in 
> > > > the world with this moron's ignorant blather and deception. Your 
> > > > mangling of an obvious point seems reactive and meaningless to me.
> > > > 
> > > > As for 
> > > > everything-being-my-perception-and-the-perception-couldn't-occur-if-the-object-of-perception-were-not-in-fact-within-me,
> > > 
> > > "Perceptions" is a fun way of expressing it. That you find nothing is 
> > > outside of you is the key. 
> > > 
> > > > that and five bucks will get you a cuppa coffee, and sometimes you just 
> > > > gotta call a dolt a dolt.:-)
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Yes, the lovebliss of dolt IS the lovebliss of dolt. A = A.
> > >
> >
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