Frankly I don't give a rat's ass what you buy or don't
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry but I just don't buy the NLP story. It just sounds like a
> ignorant "flatlander" theory.
>
> On 11/07/2011 12:54 PM, johnt wrote:
> > Since you seem to not be aware of it NLP deals extensively with sound
> > vibration known as "auditory tonal" as contrasted to "auditory digital"
> > which deals with the meaning of words. Read a little before you comment.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu<noozguru@> wrote:
> >> The first thing any research needs to do is to learn the procedures and
> >> they won't do that so they'll always be "spectators" and draw false
> >> conclusions. Shakti is simply life force, a concept beyond the ability
> >> of contemporary science to understand. One should also look into the
> >> yoga of sound and understand how sound effects people, not in an NLP way
> >> but a vibratory way. It's more physics than anything else. Mantras
> >> work due to their resonance and charged they work faster than when
> >> they're not. You'll see in books the instruction where one must repeat
> >> a certain mantra 100,000 times to get results. But that's from the book
> >> and if give by a guru it may take only 100 repetitions.
> >>
> >> On 11/06/2011 09:22 PM, johnt wrote:
> >>> No one can explain what the shakti energy is yet but they certainly agree
> >>> it can be passed on through the process known as entrainment. There is
> >>> some early research that may indicate that shakti can be seen on kirlian
> >>> photography and others can be seen being entrained by it, but it's still
> >>> early in the process of understanding.
> >>>
> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu<noozguru@> wrote:
> >>>> I'm talking about shakti which is an energy. You should be experiencing
> >>>> it when you meditate. I can transfer that energy to someone else
> >>>> without saying a word, just by touching them. So explain that by NLP.
> >>>> You can't. They are going down the wrong road though they wouldn't be
> >>>> the first researchers to do that by any means. ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>> On 11/06/2011 06:56 PM, johnt wrote:
> >>>>> Then what is it saying. Be precise I value tradition in the sense that
> >>>>> it preserves elements that are life supporting, it doesn't tell me how
> >>>>> it works. That's what modern psychologists are only beginning to try
> >>>>> and do do. Vedic masters were masters of what's now becoming NLP,
> >>>>> however people just parroting what they heard doesn't show
> >>>>> understanding.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What exactly do YOU mean by "charged"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu<noozguru@> wrote:
> >>>>>> Oh yes it does. Centuries of tantrics and yogis would argue with you
> >>>>>> on
> >>>>>> that. These guys you are talking about are blind men feeling an
> >>>>>> elephant. :-D
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 11/06/2011 06:00 PM, johnt wrote:
> >>>>>>> "charge" is a nice ooga booga term that says nothing. It's only part
> >>>>>>> of philosophy not science unless you understand it in the sense of
> >>>>>>> Rupert sheldrake' morphic field, in which case your saying the same
> >>>>>>> thing I am.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu<noozguru@> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> That's a wild ass theory trying to make the puja sound "scientific".
> >>>>>>>> What the puja actually does is "charge" the mantra. In other
> >>>>>>>> traditions
> >>>>>>>> you are given the mantra by someone who has enough juice to "charge"
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> mantra with shakti without the need for a puja. Reciting a 3-4
> >>>>>>>> minute
> >>>>>>>> puja takes it place. It would have taken years to create even a
> >>>>>>>> small
> >>>>>>>> army of TM teachers the traditional way. The traditional way is what
> >>>>>>>> Muktananda used and his instructors gave shaktipat along with the
> >>>>>>>> mantra. It is also the way my tantra teacher has instructed me to
> >>>>>>>> teach
> >>>>>>>> people.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 11/05/2011 11:48 PM, Denise Evans wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Sheeeeeeet. Is that what "brainwashing" is?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>>>>>> From: johnt<johnlasher20002000@>
> >>>>>>>>> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 11:17 AM
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: [FairfieldLife] WHY TM CAN'T BE LEARNED FROM A BOOK
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Why TM can't be learned from a book
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> A TM initiation alters the brainwave pattern of the one performing
> >>>>>>>>> the puja. When the teacher then passes on the mantra to the person
> >>>>>>>>> learning meditation he also passes on a brainwave state by a
> >>>>>>>>> process know in neurophysiology as entrainment. Brainwave
> >>>>>>>>> entrainment or "brainwave synchronization," is any practice that
> >>>>>>>>> aims to cause brainwave frequencies to fall into step with a
> >>>>>>>>> periodic stimulus having a frequency corresponding to the intended
> >>>>>>>>> brain-state. This is only one of the Neuro effects of a TM
> >>>>>>>>> initiation which is a very well crafted design of several which
> >>>>>>>>> lead to a self transcending effect of the mantra.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>
> >
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