"You claim to mock yourself, but you seem to get veryuptight sometimes when you perceive someone else to be mocking you. What's that about?"
Dear Judy - as promised here's my response to you before I kicked off because someone decided to show a spine :-) (If it doesn't go through I will email it to you privately) I think you ask a genuine question and I somehow missed addressing it. I will try my best. But I feel I have addressed it in the past but will clarify again. I make a distinction between mocking the outer, my personality that is represented by Ravi Chivukula and the inner, my enlightenment that has been gifted to me, the energy that is represented by Ravi Yogi. The personality of Ravi Chivukula has many mock-able characteristics like anyone else. I smoke and Judy if you were with me and said it was disgusting I will laugh along with you and will agree. In fact I had one of my lady friends, typical Buddhist liberal intellectual, she got mad at me when I lighted a smoke in front of her. I spend a long time apologizing to her and persuading her and promised I won't smoke when I'm with her again. It was fun because it was a completely new experience for me. I would have taken offense prior to my enlightenment. I mostly drive slowly but on occasions I revert to my old behavior, fast, cutting off. If you were sitting next to me and expressed your disgust I will apologize and slow down. There were 2 of my friends that constantly made fun of my driving post enlightenment, I loved it and enjoyed their mocking. I would have taken offense prior. Last weekend I went to a gentleman's club since my friend wanted to go - my first after enlightenment. I sat there refused all requests for lap dances by tipping the women and just talking to them. As we were ready to leave I asked my friend to wait while I looked at the woman that I liked started dancing. I wanted to check out her breasts and I was not disappointed. It was the perfect size that I always appreciate. I was done and we walked out. If you expressed your disgust about how I could support this I wouldn't have defended too much and laughed along with you. Then there are other things - I pick my nose when no one's watching, I buy lottery tickets hoping it would bail me out of my obligations (stupid), I sometimes don't dispose my cigarette butts. There are many others sins prior to enlightenment that I confessed to, including soliciting prostitutes on CL to hurt my ex, I would explain patiently if you asked me about it. Anyway I don't want to go through all that since it all looks as if it happened to someone else but I will not shy away from it. OTOH if you like Alex thought it was cute, silly and facetious to add a "rabid" to my description of Ravi Yogi as raving, roving I will get mad and come after you mercilessly because I will not let anyone insult the gift of enlightenment that I have been graced with. It's like a mad lover, if someone insults his beloved he will come after you. I gave Alex enough clues to back out but he didn't so I had to humiliate him. Same thing with raunchy, because the energy of Ravi Yogi is not homophobic. I baited her with my usual routine of liberal exchange program, Gandhi, Teresa attacks. She got offended but decided calling me homopohobic and accusing me having bl**jobs with Alex was a better strategy. (I wonder why no one thought raunchy was homophobic). I was raging and went about insulting and humiliating her. Same thing here, I don't tolerate any attacks on the yogi energy, the beloved. Hope this clarifies somewhat, though I understand the limitations of satisfying the intellect. But I love you Judy and this is the best I can do. Love - Ravi ________________________________ From: authfriend <jst...@panix.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, December 3, 2011 8:55:33 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Yogi's video response to Alex --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi <raviyogi@...> wrote: > > Well Judy you missed lot of context with Alex's pathetic loser > attempts for the last few days to call me Rabid, this video > with its spoof on Girlie man (it's not the video itself it's > Alex's intentions) and then a video with Indian accent. I didn't miss any of that, Ravi, I saw it all. I love you, man, but I think you've got Alex's intentions all wrong, *way* wrong. He just found that stuff amusing and figured you would too. He had no idea it would insult you. > I think Alex is full of shame i.e. living in a closet, I've known Alex (electronically) for over a decade, and my impression is that he's better adjusted and more self-aware than most of the folks on FFL. Not that he doesn't have his problems like the rest of us--he's been very open about that--but he doesn't inflict them on us the way some others here do. > he assumes I must too > :-). He doesn't realize that I mock Ravi's personality as > much I do anyone else's. And I love myself and others with > equal intensity, there is no contradiction. Look, I don't get where you're at a lot of the time. For many of us, you're a puzzlement. With the best will in the world, it's not always easy to read between your lines. I'm having a lot of trouble understanding your attacks on Alex as coming from love. And I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that you don't have issues with homosexuality, but I'm not surprised that others see your reaction to Alex's and raunchydog's videos as homophobic. You claim to mock yourself, but you seem to get very uptight sometimes when you perceive someone else to be mocking you. What's that about? > His Waking Down experiences and subsequent comments were > very hilarious when he posted it several months back. > Changing from TM to Waking Down obviously hasn't helped > his hiding in a closet i.e shame and self loathing issues - > my references to homosexuality are more of a subtext, > closet hiding, mommy hating and girlie men. I couldn't > avoid it since his shame and self loathing probably > involves his issues with homosexuality, I have no issues > with it myself. You weren't invited to beat Alex up with what you imagine his private struggles to be, whether you're right or wrong about them. Whatever they are, he doesn't inflict them on anybody here, as I suggested, and he doesn't need you to play therapist for what he's handling on his own. I don't think any of what he said to you, or those videos, came from anything but a sense of fun. IMHO, you need to take some responsibility for how you affect others. You can't expect that if you just say, "I'm a narcissistic enlightened asshole and I love everybody with as much intensity as I love myself," they're going to go, Oh, well, that's all right then, he can insult me as much as he likes and I won't take offense. "Crazy wisdom" is all well and good, but it doesn't work unless the folks to whom you're dishing it out have accepted you as a teacher. And you can't force that on anybody.
