--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >  
> > > >  
> > > > > > >  Back in the '70s I remember MMY saying on a tape (in 
> > > > reference to 
> > > > > setting up TM): "I could have made it a religion"...well, 
> > > > somewhere 
> > > > > along the way -- somewhere in between 1975 and today -- he 
> DID 
> > > > make 
> > > > > it a religion...and I'm not referring to TM but to the 
TMO.  
> > > > Anyone 
> > > >  
> > > > One of the most emotional speeches I heard while I was at 
MIU, 
> > > back 
> > > > around the time of the Court Case; where TM was being taught 
> in 
> > > > several New Jersey schools with great success, and some 
> Christian 
> > > > Religious group from California, protested that you can't 
> teach 
> > TM 
> > > > in Public Schools, because it's a religion;
> > > > The ultimately got the Puja, translated and proclaimed it to 
> be a 
> > > > religion, in Court, in Philadelphia Superior Fed. Court; and 
> it 
> > > was 
> > > > decided not to pursue the matter any further.
> > > > Anyway, Jerry Jarvis, made a very angry speech, saying how 
> stupid 
> > > > were the "powers that be" and more or less said that they had 
> > > > condemned the school system to failure, in the United States, 
> > > which 
> > > > we can see has been fairly accurate.
> > > > At that time, I could sense the attitude of the movement 
> shifting 
> > > > toward the stance that it has now;
> > > > Instead of working with the established system, the movement 
> > > regards 
> > > > the established system, whether it be educational, spiritual, 
> > > > political, or economic as basically retarded.
> > > > In this vain, the attitude is now, that the movement has 
> > > structured 
> > > > it's own reality, in a world that is quite insane, in order 
to 
> > > stand 
> > > > out.
> > > > Let's face it, in an enlightened world, who cares how strange 
> the 
> > > > people in the movement seem to be,
> > > > If they want to fly in the dome 24 hours a day, 
> > > > I say: "Go for It!"
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I was also at MIU as a student at that time.  I remember 
looking 
> at 
> > > the curriculum book that the TMO had set up for the New Jersey 
> High 
> > > School students.  Very beautiful book with beautiful 
photographs 
> of 
> > > sunsets etc. to demonstrate the power of C.I. etc.
> > > 
> > > The only problem was that you could replace the word "absolute" 
> > that 
> > > the Movement used in the book with the word "God" and it would 
> have 
> > > meant exactly the same thing...so if the court didn't catch the 
> TMO 
> > > on the puja they would have caught them on the book which was 
> set 
> > up 
> > > in such a way that it DID violate the separation of church and 
> > state.
> > 
> > The court pretty much noted that. Infact, it wasn't the puja, but 
> SCI 
> > that was the thing that caught the court's eye.
> 
> 
> Well, then, you are confirming that my concerns were correct.
> 
> Makes me wonder why, then, the movement would do such a thing.

Testing the limits, I imagine.





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