--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > I am speaking mostly of healings, consciousness-shifts and the 
like 
> > -- in which the observer/healee has a very important part to 
play. 
> > Other sidhis, like weather-changing, appear to depend much less 
on 
> > whoever is observing, probably because the effects are less 
> > intimate :-)
> 
> I still think it's like that Woody Allen line:  "Those
> who can, do; those who can't, teach; those who can't
> teach, teach gym."  :-)
> 
> The ability to perform siddhis depends on nothing in
> the environment, only on the person who is performing
> them.  The ability to *see* them and recognize that
> they have been performed depends very *much* on the
> consciousness of the viewers.  Those who didn't see
> what others saw tended to make up stories about why
> they couldn't.  Thus all the tales about siddhis and
> miracles being somehow dependent on the environment.
> 
> To believe that miracles can't be performed unless
> the environment is "proper" and "supportive" is as 
> silly as saying that enlightenment can't happen 
> unless everyone is living is properly-shaped houses.
> 
> Oh.  Never mind.  :-)

*lol* I tend to agree with you, except when the "siddhi" 
specifically involves another's healing. Then, though *we* may see 
that the healing *has* occurred, the end-result is predominantly 
still up to the other, as it so intimately involves *their* reality 
they are upholding. So perhaps we are saying the same thing -- the 
ability to see and recognize the healing depends very much on the 
consciousness of the viewers :-)





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