--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > Granted both Heaven and Hell exist here on Earth. Nonetheless, 
each 
> > seems to exist separately too. Does anyone have a book to 
recommend 
> > that would enumerate and describe a cognition of them, with 
distinct 
> > characteristics for each Heaven and each Hell? Does the Tibetan 
Book 
> > of the Dead do this?
> 
> I think that the best approach to bring to any study 
> of the different lokas or planes of existence is that
> they *don't* have physical existence anywhere, that
> they are mental constructs.  Thus they can exist in
> the mind of the person as he lives here on Earth, and
> they can exist in the mind of the person who is going
> through the Bardo between death and rebirth.  But they
> exist *only* in the mind, and thus can be transcended
> at any moment, in life or in death.

Yes, I completely agree, and as such, these mental constructs can be 
pretty nebulous. That is why I was looking for a text that specifies 
discrete characteristics of the lokas, so that I might recognize 
more clearly where I am sometimes. 




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