And with this announcement we enter the realm of the testable. Let's break it 
down:

> While Yogic Flying produces a powerful, generalized, non-directed surge> of 
> positivity for the general well-being of society, 

Actually sidhis themselves included many testable behaviors. But that didn't 
really pan out too well did it?  No one was able to produce something specific 
that would prove the theory.  It could have happened, Maharishi predicted it 
would happen, but it did not happen.

So they changed the claim to something they could paint a circle around and 
claim victory, the panacea snake oil of "generalized non-directed surge" (I 
think I saw that flick when it came out on VHS, It stars Ginger Lynn who 
claimed to have a detachable jaw and in the third scene with the pizza delivery 
guy made me a believer.  Now that's what you call a convincing demo of a 
claim!) 

So they could have given a demo that would have changed the world forever with 
the sidhis.  The finding lost objects one that Larry Domash bragged about doing 
would have been enough, and we would have given Jonathan Shear's claim of 
understanding a squirrel a polite pass.  But they didn't, which in the rest of 
the world is known as, they couldn't. They got off the hook by changing the 
claim to be so broad that, "hey look a squirrel" worked for movement believers. 
 It did not impress the world at large who pretty much unanimously responded to 
all these claims with "Yeah right, hey do you want to go grab a coffee?"

But happy days are here again folks, if the movement will step up they have a 
chance once again to redeem themselves and convert the world.  All that is 
needed is for them to produce exactly what they are claiming to.  And before 
you are too quick to say "oh that Curtis is being a butthole again" think about 
this for a minute.  This is a chance for them to prove to the world that their 
claims are true, so why are they not doing it in a form that the rest of us 
could appreciate?  The fulfillment of the world plan is right there in front of 
them, isn't it?  Am I being unreasonable for asking them for a convincing demo? 
 When did TM become the a branch of the Evangelical Church of Jesus the 
Redeemer?  Why is faith necessary when a demo is possible? 

<Yagyas create a
> very focused, concentrated influence of positivity designed to
> neutralize specific threats. Like the threats that are looming today.>

All they have to do is pick 3 things.  3 things that need yagya-ing.  3 things 
that are broken or not enough of something or too much of something we don't 
want.  Why is it improper in principle to insist that they first put their 
money where their mouth is with a decent demo of this effect that we can all 
see if in fact it is specific?  Why aren't they the ones insisting on one if 
they are so sure of this that they will accept people's money for them?  Hell, 
they deserve to put down a wager with all of us skeptics.  If they could do X 
then it is reasonable for them to ask us to pony up and pay for the next round, 
right?

So I challenge any believers in yagyas here to come up with 3 things that we 
could verify that Yagyas could fix.  I believe it deals with the issue of the 
simultaneity not equaling causation problem by asking for 3.  Wouldn't that do 
it?  And if it isn't scientifically airtight (also an anatomically enlightening 
scene in the above mentioned movie) wouldn't it be a good faith demo worthy of 
more research?  Since the whole TM thing is not supposed to be faith based why 
is it out of line to expect that they do what they claim first?  

But they wont, and I have a pretty good idea of why.  I saw this routine before 
with the sidhis. Nobody ever guesses which shell the pea is under in this game. 
  











--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote:
>
> All area Satsangs:
> While Yogic Flying produces a powerful, generalized, non-directed surge
> of positivity for the general well-being of society, Yagyas create a
> very focused, concentrated influence of positivity designed to
> neutralize specific threats. Like the threats that are looming today.
> 
>   [LAUNCHING: THE NEW NATIONAL YAGYA PROGRAM]
> 
> Maharishi has designed the most powerful system of Yagya the world has
> ever seen. The Maharishi National YagyaSM program is a massive
> application of Yagya on a national scale, specifically engineered to
> produce the largest possible impact on an entire nation.
> Focus for 2012: Maharishi Yagyas® for the Nation
> Join us in this great endeavor, please.Let us launch this powerful new
> program,
> may abundant good fortune smile on America, and may Maharishi's
> great legacy of peace and enlightenment permanently bless the human
> race.
> 
> Jai Guru Dev
>


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