--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Oh, this could explain a lot and certainly is a little bit interesting. Not > being much of a multiple guru groupie/slut my experience with all the > different flavours out there is limited. I practiced TM and later listened to > what Robin Carlsen had to say. This Rama guy sounds pretty entertaining. When > you read a bit of Wikipedia, thanks Raunchydog, it reads like some "Us" > magazine excerpt. For example: > > He claimed to be one of only twelve truly enlightened people on Earth.[24] > He claimed the enlightened twelve included his dog "Vayu".[25] Lenz believed > in reincarnation and suggested that through deeper awareness, one could > remember past lives. He claimed to remember several of his previous > reincarnations, including his life as a high priest at the Temple of Light in > Atlantis, and a teacher/leader in ancient Egypt, India, Japan, and Tibet.[22] > He often told his students that he was the reincarnation of Saint Thomas > More.[26] > Some of his students claimed to have watched him performing miracles, > including levitation, teleportation, projecting light from his hands, and > transforming into an old, bearded Asian man before their eyes.[27] He also > claimed to have the ability to heal people by touching them, control the > weather, uplift people by sending them light,[clarification needed] and pass > through alternate dimensions.[27] He told his followers that he "wielded the > power to create and demolish the universes" and that "those criticizing him > would invariably get hit by a car or contract cancer."[13] > > Now, far be it from me to judge the legitimacy of this great teacher's claims > but let us just, for a moment, reflect on the fact that certain "facts" about > public figures can be taken out of context or be downright false. I will > give Mr Lenz the benefit of the doubt and assume Wikipedia is pretty much out > to lunch here because if it is true that Barry spent 15 years with this guy > then, I am sorry, he has nothing to say about Robin. > > Thanks for throwing me that bone Raunchydog, you knew I wouldn't be able to > resist. >
Arf! > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hey Barry, > > > > I liked that you tried to go back and read the open letter > > > > again. It says something about you that I appreciate. > > > > You say: > > > > I'll bet that if I went back and read that sentence again, it > > > > might make more sense to me. But WHY would I want to do that? > > > > Is the state of attention being represented in that sentence > > > > one that I really have any desire to fully understand, much > > > > less re-experience?" > > > > > > > > Well, you'll only know that if you put a little effort into > > > > trying. > > > > > > Why would I *want* to "try?" You're speaking as if the > > > mindset I was supposed to grok was worth grokking. > > > > > > <snip> > > > > > > > If his descriptions of his personal purgatory, maybe even > > > > hell, for these last 25 years is any indication he may have > > > > also like to have "taken a pass" on the whole episode. And > > > > I certainly don't think he is asking anyone to revere him > > > > (or to pity him) but I can tell you I am pretty thankful I > > > > only had to be the recipient of his demonic/divine > > > > perceptions and not the perceiver. > > > > > > I can understand that in that you are a survivor of some- > > > thing/someone you were once attracted to. I am just stating > > > that I would never have been attracted. > > > > > > > Around the time Ann was hanging out with Robin wasn't Barry hanging out > > with Frederick Lenz? Fifteen years, wasn't it? If he hadn't been so busy > > with Rama, maybe he would have crossed paths with Ann at one of Robin's > > seminars. > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Lenz > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Lenz > > >
