--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote: > > > > > > On Apr 29, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Susan wrote: > > > > > From what I can see, there are child abusers and rapists in all cultures > > > and traditions. They don't seem to congregate in a few spots. Kind of > > > like most diseases - mental illness, heart disease. You can try to cure > > > them, but mostly child abusers and rapists etc don't change much no > > > matter what their practice or belief system. So they are represented > > > everywhere, even in the very places you would least expect- Buddhist or > > > Hindu masters, clergy of all persuasions, professors, camp counselors, > > > police, grandparents, neighbors. You can't judge the tradition or job by > > > what sick people do. > > > > > > Any religion or belief system where celibacy is enforced is ripe ground IMO. > > > > Seem to recall, according to Patañjali, samaadhi in effect > becomes "shit-hilii" without brahmacarya (?Bhoja: upasthasya saMyamaH). > > shraddhaa-*viirya*-smRti-samaadhi-prajñaa-puurvaka itareSaam. > > brahma-carya-pratiSthaayaaM *viirya*-laabhaH. > > Vocabulary: > > zithila a. loose, flaccid, languid, trembling, feeble. > > vIrya n. manliness, courage, strength, heroic deed, semen virile. > > upastha m. lap, groin; m. n. the sexual organs, esp. of a woman. > > saMyama m. restraint, check, control, esp. selfcontrol; suppression, > destruction, tying up or together, fettering; closing (of the eyes). >
But what about your average person, not celibate, who becomes enlightened? I wonder if the talk of celibacy is putting cart before the horse.
