On May 11, 2012, at 8:06 AM, salyavin808 wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <LEnglish5@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@> > > wrote: > > > > > Anyway, I sure hope for the theories sake that they find the Higgs boson > > > because it's dead in the water without that and it doesn't > > > have long before they pull the plug on that experiement and go back to > > > the chalk board. Not that the HB proves that Hagelin is right > > > about consciousness obviously, but you knew that. > > > > > > > It's an interesting rewrite of science that the claims is that the HLC > > finding or not finding the HIggs-Boson will prove superstring theory > > correct or not. > > No, just the flipped SU5 theory as it's composed almost entirely > of HBs. > > The original estimates of how much energy the Higgs-Boson would require to > study in an accelerator were so high that superstring theorists like Hagelin > were saying that there was no possible way that a man-made instrument could > produce them directly. > > I understood that about the strings themselves but not the HB, > the LHC was designed to get at that. > > That's the reason why the book, _Not Even Wrong_, was written. > > > > It is true that people have moved on to other theories, but that is because > > SuperStrings can't be used to predict new measurable events. The tweaking > > that has been done about Higgs-Bsons appears to me to be last-ditch > > attempts to keep the theory alive as a scientific theory, that is, > > something that is testable. > > > > SuperString theories, Flipped SU(5) or something else, might really > > "explain everything," but if you can't prove it, it is a scientific dead > > end. > > Quite right. I been reading some ideas about testing multi universe > theories, apparently the cosmic microwave background should hold > enough detail still to see the formation of multiple realities > (should they exist) or even just the first electrons from the heat- > storm of the big bang. Plans are being made to get something up there > sensitive enough to check.
The other problem is minimal SU(5), which flipped SU(5) is mathematically derived from, has already been falsified. IIRC “Flipped” doesn’t even include gravity in it's theory. See: Quantum Gods: Creation, Chaos and the Search for Cosmic Consciousness by Vic Stenger.
