On 05/24/2012 10:25 AM, authfriend wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu<noozguru@...>  wrote:
>> On 05/23/2012 05:04 PM, authfriend wrote:
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu<noozguru@>   wrote:
>>>> On 05/23/2012 03:33 PM, authfriend wrote:
>>>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu<noozguru@>    wrote:
>>>>>> On 05/23/2012 12:09 PM, authfriend wrote:
>>>>>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu<noozguru@>     wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 05/22/2012 09:29 PM, authfriend wrote:
>>>>>>>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u<no_reply@>      wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I think the treasury Secretary, Timothy Geithner reports directly to 
>>>>>>>>>> Obama....
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu<noozguru@>      wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 05/22/2012 04:39 PM, wgm4u wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> By printing more money Obama cleverly 'steals' your money
>>>>>>>>>>>> from your bank by deflating the dollar.
>>>>>>>>> Hmm, I've always thought printing money results in
>>>>>>>>> *inflation*, not deflation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Fortunately, the runaway inflation the GOP has been
>>>>>>>>> screaming is going to happen hasn't.
>>>>>>>> Do you compare food prices to what they were two, three years ago?  
>>>>>>>> Some
>>>>>>>> of us still have a memory system and can even remember what prices were
>>>>>>>> 10 years ago for food, gas, etc.  Inflation is very much here but yes
>>>>>>>> not quite runaway yet.
>>>>>>> Nowhere *near* runaway, Bhairitu. As I'm sure you're aware,
>>>>>>> food and gas prices fluctuate significantly regardless of
>>>>>>> the money supply, so they're often not included in measures
>>>>>>> of what's called "core inflation." Core inflation is vastly
>>>>>>> more important for the state of the economy--and it's still
>>>>>>> *very low* (2.3% as of April). Many economists say the
>>>>>>> economy would benefit if it were allowed to rise somewhat.
>>>>>>> But the GOP uses the threat of inflation as a scare tactic,
>>>>>>> so core inflation is kept down by the Fed, which prevents
>>>>>>> the economy from improving.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>> Let's see, in 2000 when I moved here a turkey wrap at the local store,
>>>>>> the same one they sell now was $1.99.  It's $4.99 now. It was a favorite
>>>>>> of mine.  I watch the price of things like potato chips because they are
>>>>>> cheap to make and non-essential so you would think they wouldn't rise so
>>>>>> much in price.  But a bag of chips is now $3 when it was $1 back in
>>>>>> 2000.  That is a 300% rise.  And the bags have less chips.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want more information watch the "Weight of the Nation" HBO
>>>>>> episode especially episode four where they point out food price
>>>>>> inflation.  You can watch it for free on their web site or their channel
>>>>>> on YouTube.  You will not see this series on broadcast TV as food
>>>>>> advertisers would complain and want to pull TV ads.
>>>>> Let me say it another way:
>>>>>
>>>>> As I'm sure you're aware, food and gas prices fluctuate
>>>>> significantly regardless of the money supply, so they're
>>>>> often not included in measures of what's called "core
>>>>> inflation." Core inflation is vastly more important for
>>>>> the state of the economy--and it's still *very low*
>>>>> (2.3% as of April).
>>>> I should have known that if I replied to you all you would
>>>> want to do is argue.
>>> You replied to me to argue, and insultingly, too. But
>>> you can't seem to deal with what I'm saying.
>> You could have simply said you disagree as most people
>> would but instead you took on a tone:
> Yeah, wow, I explained my reasons for disagreeing, and
> that upset you, obviously.
>
>> Judy:
>>
>> Nowhere *near* runaway, Bhairitu. As I'm sure you're aware,
>> food and gas prices fluctuate significantly regardless of
>> the money supply, so they're often not included in measures
>> of what's called "core inflation."
>>
>> Me:
>> You wrote like you are lecturing me.
> My goodness, you're a delicate little flower. "Took on
> a tone" indeed. Your "tone" is far more hostile and
> aggressive than mine.
>
> Plus which, anybody who tries to equate the current
> inflation in food/energy prices to "runaway inflation"
> needs to be lectured. It plays right into the hands of
> the GOP.

You idiot.  I said way back at the beginning it wasn't exactly runaway 
inflation.  You are the "delicate little flower" though more a weed. :-D
>
>> I still think that "core inflation" is a just a bunch of
>> bullshit the government spins so as to not look so bad and
>> most likely at the behest of the banks who have a vested
>> interest in making everything look "peach keen."  You of
>> all people should not fall for that.
> Have you ever noticed, Bhairitu, how *anything* you don't
> like is driven by the bankers? Anything you don't want to
> believe is lies the government tells at the behest of the
> bankers?

Maybe because "it is" driven by the bankers?  So you are defending the 
bankers now, eh?  Even more evidence that your are for the "status 
quo."  Geez, I even remember when you were defending British Petroleum 
here a couple years ago.

I guess if your sole source of economic information is going to be Paul 
Krugman you might be a little under informed.   BTW, I listened to 
Krugman being interviewed locally the other day.  You do know he is now 
calling this a "depression" albeit a with a small "D".

What I really think is happening here is that Judy is deathly afraid the 
Barry, Vaj, a few others and myself might lead the TB'ers here astray.  
So she acts like a mother hen trying to laughingly "protect" her brood 
from us. :-D

> Not that this never happens, heaven knows, but it's just
> a knee-jerk reaction on your part, the result of your
> having swallowed too many conspiracy theories whole.

Labeling people whose opinions you disagree with as "conspiracy 
theorists" is a cheap shot.  But certainly not beneath you.

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