--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > I bet in his quiet moments Tony looks in the mirror,
> > > sees himself with his crown and robe and says,"What
> > > the f**k!"
> > 
> > 
> > Well, just before he says "What the f**k", he says "this is what 
I 
> > get after 12 years of post-secondary education and medical 
school?"
> 
> 
> And a doctorate in neuroscience from MIT?




-) PRECISELY my point!



> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > --- Cliff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Or maybe he's terrified of making his own decisions
> > > > and thus
> > > > taking responsibility for his own life?  Certainly
> > > > way easier to think
> > > > "my Master told me to do this so it must be right"
> > > > than it is to critically
> > > > examine one's own behavior and beliefs while
> > > > admitting the possibility
> > > > that many things you have held as absolute truth for
> > > > decades might
> > > > be not only absurd, but possibly even intentionally
> > > > concocted by
> > > > someone you implicitly trusted to deceive and fleece
> > > > you.
> > > > 
> > > > The latter is a very serious "oh shit" experience,
> > > > as I have found.
> > > > Maybe Tony just hasn't gotten to the "oh shit" yet. 
> > > > Or maybe he
> > > > has so much invested in ignoring the shit that he'll
> > > > never come face
> > > > to face with it in this lifetime.  Or maybe he
> > > > really is King of the
> > > > Universe and an incarnation of the Divine.  I know
> > > > which ones I
> > > > think are more likely...
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > "Cliff" 
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Not just you.  I have exactly the same
> > > > reaction.  Any 
> > > > > westerner
> > > > > > > > > who puts on that crown has just removed
> > > > themselves from any 
> > > > > > > > > possibility of being taken seriously on
> > > > this planet.  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > That's it exactly.  And anyone who says
> > > > "Yes" to the 
> > > > > > > > idea, out of a mistaken sense of loyalty to
> > > > the teacher
> > > > > > > > who proposes it, is IMO doing a disservice
> > > > both to the
> > > > > > > > teacher and to that which he teaches.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > So the teacher MUST be wrong when he asks you
> > > > to do an apparently 
> > > > > > > SILLY thing?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Not necessarily, but if *you* know it to be
> > > > silly
> > > > > > and feel in your heart that it's the wrong thing
> > > > > > to do, and do it anyway out of a sense of
> > > > loyalty
> > > > > > to the teacher, then yes, it's wrong.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > That's what leads me to write off Tony Nader. 
> > > > He
> > > > > > always seemed to have too much on the ball to 
> > > > > > really believe that this silly world government 
> > > > > > and king stuff was good for the movement in the
> > > > > > long run, and he went along with it anyway.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Perhaps he sees it as a test, or as silliness that
> > > > must be endured, 
> > > > > or simply asthe last whim of his master, who
> > > > should be honored?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Or perhaps he sees something more (or less) than
> > > > the rest of us?
> > > > 
> > > > 
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