--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > I did a search on 'Bush's Obscene Tirades' and found
> > > that a lot of other websites carried the article.
> > 
> > Yeah, but you won't find it on any of the *major*
> > political blogs.  I checked a few of the ones that
> > had posted it, and they were really fringe-lefty
> > blogs, the kind who don't much care whether the
> > information they post is reliable.  (Unfortunately
> > Randi Rhodes of Air America has it on *her* blog.
> > She ought to know better.)
> > 
> > If it had appeared on Daily Kos or Atrios or Political
> > Animal or TPM Cafe or Huffpost, then you might want to
> > give it *some* measure of credibility.  I see people in
> > the Comments sections of these blogs posting links to
> > Capitol Hill Blue articles, and they almost always get
> > slapped down by other folks who tell them not to put
> > any faith in it (and these are very anti-Bush folks).
> 
> Hmmm.  Why does this remind me of what almost
> *everyone* in the News business said about
> Woodward and Bernstein when they first started
> publishing their stuff about Watergate?

You mean, that W&B's story was dubious because
they were publishing it in a tiny little newspaper
that was known to be unreliable, rather than in a
respectable outlet like The Washington Post?



> 
> If it turns out to be true, all these people
> dumping on Capitol Hill Blue will somehow 
> forget their criticisms and claim to have
> been the ones who "really" broke the story.  :-)
> 
> > Apparently it's published big "scoops" in the past
> > that have turned out to be pure garbage.
> > 
> > If you'll notice, a good portion of the article is
> > taken up with quoting this guy who wrote a book
> > supposedly psychoanalyzing Bush, and everything
> > else is attributed to unnamed sources.  There's
> > zero hard information in it.
> > 
> > > Until I see it on something like CNN, though, I won't
> > > be convinced the article is not a spoof. It sounds too
> > > outrageous to be true.
> > 
> > It isn't a spoof, but it is outrageous.  It's just 
> > mostly made up.  Bush apparently *did* give the
> > finger to some reporters recently, and one of them
> > got a photo of it.  I suspect that's what gave
> > CHB the idea for the article.  Lots of people have
> > seen the photo, and referring to it in the article
> > appears to give the rest of it more credibility.
> > 
> > If Bush *were* given to obscene tirades to the
> > scandalous extent the article says, you probably
> > wouldn't hear it on CNN, but you would likely see
> > references to it in some of the respectable
> > political blogs on the Web, because it would
> > get around.  If those bloggers heard it from
> > someone they trusted, they'd post it.
> > 
> > But if the *only* place you see something is
> > on Capitol Hill Blue, you can most likely chalk
> > it up and forget it.
> > 
> > "If it sounds too good to be true," and all that.
> > 
> > 
> > > --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Don't mean to spoil the fun, but as it happens
> > > > Capitol Hill Blue is NOT considered a reliable
> > > > source.  They seem to take little bits of facts
> > > > and then, er, embroider them rather significantly.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7267.shtml
> > > > > 
> > > > > From Capitol Hill Blue
> > > > > 
> > > > > Bush Leagues Bush's Obscene Tirades Rattle White
> > > > House Aides By DOUG
> > > > > THOMPSON Aug 25, 2005, 06:19
> > > > > 
> > > > > While President George W. Bush travels around the
> > > > country in a last-
> > > > ditch
> > > > > effort to sell his Iraq war, White House aides
> > > > scramble frantically 
> > > > behind
> > > > > the scenes to hide the dark mood of an
> > > > increasingly angry leader who
> > > > > unleashes obscenity-filled outbursts at anyone who
> > > > dares disagree 
> > > > with him.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > ³I¹m not meeting again with that goddamned bitch,²
> > > > Bush screamed at 
> > > > aides
> > > > > who suggested he meet again with Cindy Sheehan,
> > > > the war-protesting 
> > > > mother
> > > > > whose son died in Iraq. ³She can go to hell as far
> > > > as I¹m concerned!
> > > > ²
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Bush flashes the bird, something aides say he does
> > > > often and has 
> > > > been doing
> > > > > since his days as governor of Texas. Bush,
> > > > administration aides 
> > > > confide,
> > > > > frequently explodes into tirades over those who
> > > > protest the war, 
> > > > calling
> > > > > them ³motherfucking traitors.² He reportedly was
> > > > so upset over 
> > > > Veterans of
> > > > > Foreign Wars members who wore ³bullshit
> > > > protectors² over their ears 
> > > > during
> > > > > his speech to their annual convention that he told
> > > > aides to ³tell 
> > > > those VFW
> > > > > assholes that I¹ll never speak to them again if
> > > > they can¹t keep 
> > > > their
> > > > > members under control.²
> > > > > 
> > > > > White House insiders say Bush is growing
> > > > increasingly bitter over 
> > > > mounting
> > > > > opposition to his war in Iraq. Polls show a vast
> > > > majority of 
> > > > Americans now
> > > > > believe the war was a mistake and most doubt the
> > > > President¹s 
> > > > honesty.
> > > > > 
> > > > > ³Who gives a flying fuck what the polls say,² he
> > > > screamed at a 
> > > > recent
> > > > > strategy meeting. ³I¹m the President and I¹ll do
> > > > whatever I 
> > > > goddamned
> > > > > please. They don¹t know shit.²
> > > > > 
> > > > > Bush, while setting up for a photo op for signing
> > > > the recent CAFTA 
> > > > bill,
> > > > > flipped an extended middle finger to reporters.
> > > > Aides say the 
> > > > President
> > > > > often ³flips the bird² to show his displeasure and
> > > > tells aides who 
> > > > disagree
> > > > > with him to ³go to hell² or to ³go fuck yourself.²
> > > > His habit of 
> > > > giving
> > > > > people the finger goes back to his days as Texas
> > > > governor, aides 
> > > > admit, and
> > > > > videos of him doing so before press conferences
> > > > were widely 
> > > > circulated among
> > > > > TV stations during those days. A recent video
> > > > showing him shooting 
> > > > the
> > > > > finger to reporters while walking also recently
> > > > surfaced.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Bush¹s behavior, according to prominent Washington
> > > > psychiatrist, 
> > > > Dr. Justin
> > > > > Frank, author of ³Bush on the Couch: Inside the
> > > > Mind of the 
> > > > President,² is
> > > > > all too typical of an alcohol-abusing bully who is
> > > > ruled by fear.
> > > > > 
> > > > > To see that fear emerges, Dr. Frank says, all one
> > > > has to do is 
> > > > confront the
> > > > > President. ³To actually directly confront him in a
> > > > clear way, to 
> > > > bring him
> > > > > out, so you would really see the bully, and you
> > > > would also see the 
> > > > fear,² he
> > > > > says.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Dr. Frank, in his book, speculates that Bush, an
> > > > alcoholic who 
> > > > brags that he
> > > > > gave up booze without help from groups like
> > > > Alcoholics Anonymous, 
> > > > may be
> > > > > drinking again.
> > > > > 
> > > > > ³Two questions that the press seems particularly
> > > > determined to 
> > > > ignore have
> > > > > hung silently in the air since before Bush took
> > > > office,² Dr. Frank 
> > > > says. ³Is
> > > > > he still drinking? And if not, is he impaired by
> > > > all the years he 
> > > > did spend
> > > > > drinking? Both questions need to be addressed in
> > > > any serious 
> > > > assessment of
> > > > > his psychological state.²
> > > > > 
> > > > > Last year, Capitol Hill Blue learned the White
> > > > House physician 
> > > > prescribed
> > > > > anti-depressant drugs for the President to control
> > > > what aides called
> > > > > ³violent mood swings.² As Dr. Frank also notes:
> > > > ³In writing about 
> > > > Bush's
> > > > > halting appearance in a press conference just
> > > > before the start of 
> > > > the Iraq
> > > > > War, Washington Post media critic Tom Shales
> > > > speculated that Œthe 
> > > > president
> > > > > may have been ever so slightly medicated.¹²
> > > > > 
> > > > > Dr. Frank explains Bush¹s behavior as
> > > > all-to-typical of an 
> > > > alcoholic who is
> > > > > still in denial:
> > > > > 
> > > > > ³The pattern of blame and denial, which recovering
> > > > alcoholics work 
> > > > so hard
> > > > > to break, seems to be ingrained in the alcoholic
> > > > personality; it's 
> > > > rarely
> > > > > limited to his or her drinking,² he says. ³The
> > > > habit of placing 
> > > > blame and
> > > > > denying responsibility is so prevalent in George
> > > > W. Bush's personal 
> > > > history
> > > > > that it is apparently triggered by even the
> > > > mildest threat.²
> > > > > 
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