--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I am not at all a fan of other things that he has done, but > education > > > and health is one area that I have heard he has done relatively > well. > > > > > > > > > You've heard wrong. > > > > "Relatively well" refers to comparision with Castro's other > > initiatives. I was under the impression that his health and > education > > policies, while perhaps deficient in an absolute sense, were > better, > > more effective than his other programs. > > > > Two issues: > > 1) Education; and > > 2) Health care. > > We can immediately do away with education. In the totalitarian > regime that Castro's communist dictatorshi oversees, there is no > freedom of expression, thought, or press. This extends to the > universities and schools. Therefore, we can all agree that without > that very basic freedom, education -- no matter how many PhD's or > doctors Cuba puts out -- is on the very lowest levels. > > Health care. Your life expectancy figures are skewered for one very > important reason: abortion is used as a means of contraception in > Cuba and is very frequently used. This will greatly increase life > expectancy amongst those that get to be born. > > As for health care, up until the fall of the Soviet Union, Cuba got > about $10 billion a year in aid from the USSR. This artificial > boost to the economy (used as propaganda in the western hemisphere) > was used to aid areas that Cuba couldn't by itself tend to, such as > health care. Once the USSR stopped its subsidies, Cuba experienced > a dramatic fall in health care and basic nutritional levels (Castro, > of course, continued to eat like the multi-billionaire he is). > > Ironically, it was the allowing of U.S. dollars to flow to Cubans by > their U.S. relatives AND the opening up of limited capitalism (much > of it tourism) that saved Castro's butt. > > > > > > > > > Cuba ranks 55th in life expectance out of 226 countries. Given > > statistical error, its about a dead heat with the US at 48th. Of > > course the US is beaten by counties such as Greece, Spain, Puerto > > Rico, Hong Kong, and Malta. So you seem be indicating that While > you > > feel Cuba has failed in its health policies, so than has the US. > > > http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2102rank.html > > > > You imply that, relativly speaking, other of his programs were more > > effective (since in relative terms his health and eductation > programs > > arelowratedcomparedtohis other programs). That would imply that > some > > of his other programs are as effective or more so than those in the > > US. What programs were these? > > > > In terms of literacy, out of 67 rankings (many more countries -- > due > > to lots of ties) Cuba is tied for 7th place (94%), compared to the > US > > at 4th place at 97%. Of course the US is bested by Poland, Russia, > > Jamacia, Hungary, and Tonga. So we probably have a lot to learn > from > > those coutries. > > > > It appears that you feel the 3% difference between the US and Cuba > > representsa dismal failure of Cuba. I wouldn't be so harsh. They > did > > better than Mexico, Greece and Hong Kong. > > > > http://www.theodora.com/wfb/1992/rankings/literacy_pct_1.html > > > Go compare Cuba's situation relative to the rest of Latin America to > their position today.
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