Now, I like this Xeno !!!!! Now you are finally starting to show some heart..keep at it !!!
Perhaps one day I will indulge in intellectual discussions with you, not right now because you already burdened by your muddled, muddied, meanderings - like Robin says, first be true to your first person ontology, let the reality in baby. Love, Ravi. On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius < anartax...@yahoo.com> wrote: > ** > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@...> > wrote: > > > > Oh my cold, heartless Xeno, > > > > It's unfortunate that you can't see how utterly immobilized you are by > your > > mental constructs, by your beliefs - indeed this is why Robin cleans your > > clock every single time, albeit in his own way, gently, persistently > > reminding of how far your mental constructs, beliefs keep you away from > > reality, you are a sitting duck - I feel pity for you petty, vain minds > > suffering from incorrigible, contagious form of IED (Intellectual > > Enlightenment Disorder). > > Your humility, Ravi, is overpowering. > > > > Look at this interaction I had with a one Dr. Conway on Ammachi free > speech > > list, as soon as I read him, I chuckled - I realized this was another > case > > of IED that's been a scourge of this nation - and that he should be a > piece > > of cake for me to handle, like Xeno > > > > I baited him - > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone/message/7341 > > > > He feel hook, line and sinker - > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone/message/7342 > > > > I decimated him (last few paras) - > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone/message/7368 > > > > Poor bastard - I haven't heard back from him - probably retreated to the > > safety and solace of his neo-advaita brethren. > > > > As it stands now Robin & I have disagreements on what Enlightenment is > and > > I will not allow sickly, delirious patients of IED such as yourself to > > muddy the waters here. > > This is a nice, clear statement. What do you feel the points are upon > which you disagree with Robin? And, if I muddy the waters here, as long as > Rick and Alex let me be on this forum, I could muddy the waters as much as > desired. But being cold and heartless, how much do you think I could really > stir up? > > > > > I'll come hard at you Xeno - every single time, at my fancy, at my > pleasure. > > > > Because unlike your mental constructs such as this gem here - "I do find > > Ravi particularly annoying, but I have the choice (in free-will terms) to > > ignore him" ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301358) > - > > I don't live in my head. > > As for the 'gem' above, that was written shortly before you were outed > from here, and I did experience annoyance at your antics. The statement > about free will was not entirely serious as I do not really believe in free > will; I used the words because that is how I think most people experience > choice, that is why the comment was in parentheses. > > Stating that you do not live in your head and are minus mental constructs > does not meant that is true, I firmly hold that it is not possible to > express yourself in language without mental concepts. You used the concept > 'I' several times. You listed many of your accomplishments in decimating > others' arguments; > > *I baited him. > *he fell hook, line, and sinker > *I decimated him > > Simple verbal abuse is not independent of concepts, and it does not > require much intelligence either, you are being lazy. Maybe your work > requires a lot of mental energy, and when you come here, it is easier not > to think but to mindlessly emote. Seven months in the offline FFL cooler > has not reduced your temperature much. But as you come back, you must like > it here. Welcome. > > Mental constructs are a partial value of experience, they have a certain > place. Experience has a more unbounded aspect, a more silent aspect. Even > emotions are similar to mental constructs, they are more primitive and less > focused than the intellect. They are also necessary for the experience of > fulfillment; the intellect however well developed, cannot substitute for > basic feeling. > > X > > I love you baby. > > > > Ravi. > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius < > > anartaxius@...> wrote: > > > >> ** > > >> > >> > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> OMG, what a bunch of clueless, vain, petty fools - Bhairitu & Xeno, > dear > >> Judy, I bow down to your patience in dealing with these petty mind, > utterly > >> threatened by Robin's brilliance. St. Share or St. Judy - oh no what a > >> dilemma? > >> > >> Hi Ravi. Long time no see. I am not threatened by Robin's brilliance. I > >> was speaking of my general impression of him, not attempting to refute > what > >> he says. > >> > >> > >>> Having said I did find dumbaz's gags very funny, laughing loud reading > >> another one his posts, the one Share responded to, while waiting for my > >> dinner order here at a restaurant. That these morons are so stuck in > their > >> heads is really sad - they could have just had fun, come with witty > >> responses, retorts but all we have is their repugnant prejudices > exposed in > >> such a pathetic fashion. > >>> > >>> It always baffles me when I see people taking Xeno's mental constructs > >> so seriously and I know I have always been curious on how he interacts > with > >> normal people in his daily life, I have asked him before and all I got > was > >> more mental constructs. > >> > >> Nothing of what I say is really true, and indeed when I say anything it > is > >> presented as a mental construct. There is no way to speak without a > mental > >> constuct. Saying 'there is no way to speak without a mental construct' > is a > >> mental construct. And there is no daily life interaction on FFL, no > >> interaction with normal people, there is only the symbolic structure of > >> language rolling back and forth, so all I get from you, from, Judy, from > >> Barry, etc., are mental constructs. Then one has to make something of > those > >> with what one has, and reply using one's own particular mental > construct. > >> > >> You operate from the level of your gut perhaps more than anyone here. I > do > >> operate that way sometimes, but it is much more subdued especially > compared > >> to you, if I interpret the text you write here. It was perhaps that > >> over-emotional style of yours that gets you booted off here at times. > The > >> human mind creates a world, and the separate worlds of human > interaction do > >> not line up in neat coherent rows. As I am like a separate alien > universe > >> to you, so you are to me, when comparing our mental styles. Our > emotional > >> palettes are vastly different. > >> > >> Azgrey's post(s) were rather interesting assaults on Robin. I felt the > >> general tenor of the content somewhat appropriate, considering some of > the > >> other posts in a similar vein that were more direct, and based on those > >> persons' having known Robin. Robin has the intellectual kutzpah to deal > >> with that post. Judy was correct in that I cannot quite fathom Robin, > but I > >> am not sure she does either. I feel Judy is always down in the trenches, > >> logically precise, but does not see the general sweep of the battle. I > used > >> to think in ways a lot like Judy. I was, and still am probably in a > >> different way, insufferable. Judy does it with a scope and precision I > >> could never have mustered. It takes too much energy. > >> > >> And how I interact with normal people in my daily life, well, that is a > >> deep deep secret of the universe, hidden from the eyes of dear dear > Ravi. > >> > >>> Love, > >>> Ravi > >> > >> > >> > > > > >
