But irrelevant. The research I was referring to is being done completely independently from the TM organization, except the Norwich University study, which has one team member (out of 4 and NOT the lead researcher) affiliated with the TMO.
L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mjackson74" <mjackson74@...> wrote: > > > Ha ha! Quite funny (and true, tho I doubt that everyone on this forum would > agree!) > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote: > > > > Of course the TMO doing it's own research would be a little like Verizon > > or AT&T doing research on the benefits mobile phones. ;-) > > > > On 09/09/2012 10:17 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > Like anything else, TM can become a crutch. > > > > > > That said, the research coming out of the VA and DoD will be interesting, > > > and the ongoing multi-year (multi-decade is the stated plan) research on > > > the Norwich University cadets will offer a lot of insight into how > > > exceptionally physically healthy young men and women respond to regular > > > TM. > > > > > > You can't survive 4 years of military training in a military academy if > > > you are physically frail and modern military training is supposed to weed > > > out the weaklings without killing them, so this will be about as ideal a > > > test of TM's effects on healthy individuals as you could hope for. > > > > > > L > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mjackson74" <mjackson74@> wrote: > > >> There have been a lot of posts here on FFL about TM scientific research. > > >> Personally I think, all EEG and EKG evidence aside, there is ample > > >> subjective, anecdotal evidence that TM has positive benefits. I still do > > >> it after 37 years (its not the only practice for me - chi gung and other > > >> mantra meditations). > > >> > > >> But in fairness I think one has to also weigh that against all the > > >> people who learned TM (the Movement says, what 6 million or so?) and > > >> dropped the practice AND the many many many casualties of doing TM long > > >> term and we alllllll know some people who fall in that category. I just > > >> think it disingenuous not to take such things into account. > > >> > > >> Maybe its partly just a Movement failing, in that in any TM facility > > >> there never were any programs in place to deal with people who were > > >> going through heavy "unstressing" - it was either get straightened out > > >> or get lost. > > >> > > >> And that is the problem that I think most of us who ever had problems > > >> with TM. Meaning that the behavior of the people who have always run the > > >> Movement has NEVER been in line with the high ideals the Movement > > >> officially espouses. And if the behavior of the people who have been > > >> meditating for all those years is as awful as it consistently is, you > > >> gotta wonder just how grand the effects of TM really are. > > >> > > > > > > > > >
