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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" <maskedzebra@...> wrote:

> Here, IMO, is how to maximize the chances of increasingly aligning oneself 
> with the movement and intention of reality.
> 
> 1. Look for the truth separated from your own subjective desire for what that 
> truth should be, what you want that truth to be, what you insist that truth 
> *will* be.
> 
> 2. Pretend to take a position which is against your own position as you 
> formulate your argument: How could I argue against what I am saying here with 
> sincerity and intelligence? Become a devil's advocate for your own point of 
> view--and do this *at every stage of the development of your argument*.
> 
> 3. Consider that this conflict, dispute, disagreement *exists for the benefit 
> of your own evolution* as a person; that the last thing to read it as is the 
> means to fortify your standard and habitual point of view; but that instead 
> this debate is to throw you into the unknown, to subvert your point of view, 
> to undermine you and release some fresh understanding and experience into you 
> so that you walk away from this encounter altered in some way. Turn the 
> circumstance into one of personal growth and maturation as a person. Not, 
> then, as the means to reinforcing the rightness of your own point of view. 
> Winning as an object is inimical to this more creative way of proceeding.
> 
> 4. Always try to see what really is going on inside your experience of 
> quarrelling with someone: what does my reaction to this person tell me about 
> myself? Why am I reacting the way I am? Do I have a choice about the reaction 
> I am having to this person? What other point of view could I possibly have 
> about this issue if I were someone other than myself?
> 
> 5. Seek above all one experience and only one experience: the experience, 
> sensation, feeling of reality touching one, stimulating one, informing 
> one--to whatever extent this is possible--as one writes and argues. The 
> experience of feeling isolated from reality, defending the citadel of self 
> against everything that seems opposed to one: this is the very situation most 
> to avoid. Why? Because the extent to which we are committed to this 
> orientation is the extent to which reality can never gain entrance into our 
> consciousness, so as to allow us to be moulded and shaped by reality. A 
> glorious experience. 
> 
> 6. Look for, in argument, the highest experience you can get: concerns about 
> triumph, your own ego, reputation, status: these are just the potential 
> enemies of making contact with truth. Ultimately, in my opinion, the only 
> philosophy which survives--and I believe will survive right through the 
> experience of dying--is that philosophy whereby *one is willing to do 
> anything in order to know and represent what the truth is*--but not 
> conceptually, dogmatically; rather through experimental knowledge. *What 
> reality wants one to know and experience as the truth*. This is purely 
> experiential. But it is that extraordinary confluence of the objective and 
> the subjective.
> 
> 7. Consider then there are always three points of view extant in any argument 
> between two parties: the point of view of one person; the point of view of 
> the other person; and the point of view of reality. Meaningful conversation 
> about topics where there is profound disagreement can only move forward if 
> both diverging parties conceive of the possibility of bringing their point of 
> view into alignment with that third point of view. I say that reality seeks 
> to make each human being aware of this approach, and it is there for those 
> willing to be humble and innocent enough to make contact with this living 
> energy and grace.
> 
> Now the question comes at this point: Robin, did you represent the point of 
> view of reality in giving us this disquisition on how to conduct a debate 
> about some controversial issue--like Raunchy's honour, the use of C word as 
> it applies to three women on this forum, the TM credentials of Vaj, the 
> validity of the defence by Curtis of his friend Sal? Well, that is the 
> question: Is what I have written blatantly and ironically *Robin's own 
> personal point of view* about reality's point of view, or is it indeed a fair 
> and honest and more or less accurate representation of what reality would 
> like to be known about its own point of view?
> 
> For those who respond to this post necessarily--*from my own point of 
> view*--put themselves into an experimental situation whereby it may become 
> possible to make a determination of the viability and plausibility of my post.
>


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