- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... <no_reply@...> wrote: > > And yet, there is a complete beauty, too, in remaining males and females. I > met my wife 16 years ago, after she had completed sailing around the world as > a crew of two, in a thirty foot sailboat. We had both been to Borobudur...at > very different times.:-)
Wow wow wow! Has she written about her experience? What an amazing challenge. If you care to share any details from her experiences on the ocean, I would be very interested. It seems like an unimaginable level of guts to me. I'm guessing when she puts her foot down about something around the house, it stays down! > > Together, we have a lovely partnership, of equality and respect, and fun, and > joy. But not because she is less a woman, and I am less a man. Each of us > plays our part - not defined roles, but working with our essential strengths > to forge a stronger bond, and make life more enjoyable for each of us. > > Inequality in any setting doesn't work, and I have never seen my wife as > anything but an equal partner - not really a fair claim, though, since I did > not come into this life, either by karma, or upbringing, with the idea that > women were anything other than amazing, and equal to me. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn <emilymae.reyn@> wrote: > > > > The phrase "you complete me" comes to mind. Â > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > From: awoelflebater <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> > > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > >Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 1:17 PM > > >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,"really stupid" or "reeely > > >stooopid" > > > > > > > > >Â > > > > > > > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" <maskedzebra@> wrote: > > >> > > >> "If I were a man I would want to be me". > > >> > > >> Ann likes the person that she is. Her femaleness does not deprive her of > > >> the imagination to conceive of herself as a man--and yet in thinking of > > >> what kind of man she would like to be, she realizes she possesses the > > >> specific attributes which, for her, would be almost ideal in having to > > >> be a man. There is no limitation imposed upon herself as a woman; but > > >> there is the recognition *as a person* she encompasses--or could > > >> encompass, based upon her personal ingredients--the form of herself > > >> imagined as a man. > > >> > > >> It is also a kind of private in-joke between Ann and all those who know > > >> her: Ann has a large enough personality to make it an unnatural act to > > >> defer--just based on her femininity--to any man. Ann holds within her > > >> person, then, the possibility of transmuting what she is, into the form > > >> of a man--which says what a powerful woman she is--and yet how her very > > >> person would constitute the basis for being a man she would respect and > > >> love. > > >> > > >> She can see herself as being a beautiful man. > > >> > > >> Now, that's some woman. > > > > > >Thank you for this, very kind words indeed. I would say that the sense I > > >have always had of myself has transcended gender and has always just been > > >a sense of "me" without the male or female attached to it. But I know that > > >my father was a contributing factor in never allowing me to feel in any > > >way less, compromised, incapable or undermined by the fact of my female > > >gender. He was a very equal opportunity guy who would never have dreamed > > >his daughter was handicapped in some way having been born a woman. That > > >definitely rubbed off on me growing up. > > > > > >And since the subject of husbands has come up it is also interesting to > > >note that while I embody aspects of what many people categorize as male my > > >spouse is also gifted with some wonderful female qualities. All of these > > >sides of us coming together within our relationship is what makes the two > > >of us a whole. > > >> > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@> > > >> > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater <no_reply@> > > >> > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > If I were a man I'd want to be me. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > I cannot help but go on the record here and feel > > >> > > > > sorry for Ann's hubby, not for the first time. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Ooooooh, stinging. I'll bet this will just devastate Ann. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > (Actually, I bet she'll show it to her hubby, and he'll > > >> > > > hurt himself laughing. But we can certainly understand > > >> > > > why a woman like Ann would be a nightmare for Barry.) > > >> > > > > >> > > Please note that Judy carefully snipped the smiley face > > >> > > at the end of my post, so that she could exercise her > > >> > > usual drama queenery and faux outrage. > > >> > > > >> > As Emily would say, Ahhhh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! > > >> > > > >> > As if the smiley face would make any difference. > > >> > > > >> > Barry's having a *really* hard time coughing up a > > >> > comeback. > > >> > > > >> > > What I meant -- and I suspect many people not as > > >> > > committed to turning *everything* into an argument > > >> > > as Judy is understood > > >> > > > >> > No, son, I made my point. *You're* trying to turn it > > >> > into an argument. > > >> > > > >> > > -- is that I cannot imagine > > >> > > anything more trying than maintaining a relationship > > >> > > with someone (of either sex) whose ideal in the other > > >> > > sex is someone just like them. That's a kind of > > >> > > narcissism that would be tough to cope with. > > >> > > > >> > And of course that isn't what Ann said, nor what she > > >> > meant. What an insane interpretation. > > >> > > > >> > > Relationships are all about the *differences* between > > >> > > people, not the similarities. Who -- other than Robin > > >> > > and/or people indoctrinated by him -- would ever *want* > > >> > > to be with a clone of themselves? > > >> > > > >> > Nobody would want that. Including Ann. Read what she > > >> > wrote again, you demented dimwit: > > >> > > > >> > "And if Share were a man she wants to be Steve. If I > > >> > were a man I'd want to be me." > > >> > > > >> > Nothing to do with a *relationship*. It's only your > > >> > twisted mind that would make this into, "My ideal man > > >> > would be just like me." > > >> > > > >> > > I'm just suggesting > > >> > > that, even as a passing aside, Ann's comment was very > > >> > > telling. > > >> > > > >> > What's telling, Barry, is the deterioration of your > > >> > mental faculties exemplified by this post. > > >> > > > >> > And note that you've managed to bust your faux outrage > > >> > about my not quoting your smiley face. You never meant > > >> > your remark to be anything but a nasty putdown of Ann. > > >> > > > >> > > Judy's? That just more of her normal nastiness and Yet > > >> > > Another Attempt to get everybody arguing, and thus to > > >> > > drag things down to her level. > > >> > > > >> > There's no argument here, Barry. *You* tried to start > > >> > one, but you just made yourself look REEEEEEEELY > > >> > REEEEEEEELY STOOOOOOOOPID. > > >> > > > >> > Now go sit in the corner. > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
