--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@...> wrote:
>
> On 12/30/2012 06:23 AM, Duveyoung wrote:
> > "The cosmos is within us.  We're made of star stuff. We are a way for the 
> > cosmos to know itself."  -- Carl Sagan
> >
> > To which I seriously respond: Nope. It is from the Self that all this has 
> > come into being. The universe is perhaps describable as a mirror of its 
> > radiance, but the Self knows the Self and no mirror is needed.
> >
> > Now, I'll try to defend this statement.
> >
> > See modern science for details. Singularities, for instance.
> >
> > We know not the universe -- except for:
> >
> > Our faint awareness of the ridiculously tiny titch of it inside our ittty 
> > bitty brains.
> >
> > A billion, nay, billions and billions of years hence, even then, Carl would 
> > agree, so much would remain undiscovered by the best minds using the best 
> > instrumentalities -- the universe being so huge.
> >
> > When it comes to having ultimate knowledge, only the Self can be considered 
> > the final arbiter of truth, since it was from Self that all else arose.
> >
> > I sure didn't really actually know this, until way way way late in life.  
> > Mostly I said such things as a form of wishful thinking.
> >
> > Pssst: You want to know, right? I should just tell you now, right? You 
> > don't want to have DECADES of seeking before you too find out the hard way, 
> > right?
> >
> > Question: Are you sentient and reading these words right now? That is, is 
> > that which has always been the witness to your thoughts, here right now? 
> > Are you, here? Are you YOU?????
> >
> > To which you say, "Of course, I'm here. If anyone would know if I'm here or 
> > not, it certainly would be me. I absolutely have forever and always been 
> > THE ONLY knower of my thoughts, THE ONLY feeler of my feelings, THE ONLY 
> > one who can rifle through my memory banks, THE ONLY livingness of this 
> > body/mind system.
> >
> > Therefore: Let no one seek the Self -- for all know the Self. All are the 
> > Self. And all that came from the Self can be only be SELF!
> >
> > Why? Because nary a person in all of history can describe the Self in any 
> > way that anyone else would not also recognize it to be a description of 
> > their Self also. It is the SAME SELF. Just as two pots under water can be 
> > said to be filled by the same ocean.
> >
> > Glasses on the nose being sought? Riding a hippopotamus looking for a 
> > hippopotamus?
> >
> > For all of anyone's life, ANYONE'S, there is only one Self attending that 
> > "history of localized sentience."
> >
> > It has never been lost, right? It's here right now, right?
> >
> > If you are not enlightened, NO ONE HAS EVER BEEN. You are complete now by 
> > your own admission. You do not say that you are half a being, half a soul, 
> > half a mind. You say you are here and have always been the one who is here. 
> > And you are CERTAIN that you will always be the "you" of the system you're 
> > witnessing.....no "other you" is possible.
> >
> > Limbs can be lopped, senses muted, consciousness attenuated -- but the Self 
> > is unaffected.
> >
> > One says, "I am sick."
> >
> > But, but, but what EVERYONE means is, "I am FULLY HERE completely intimate 
> > with the operations of this body/mind system, which at present is askew, 
> > and it is in a process of healing, during which thoughts may come and go, 
> > dreams may prevail at times, there may be variance in clarity, and 
> > consciousness will not always RECORD these almost endless doings, but all 
> > these processes may be a flurry of obfuscation and yet not dent my being 
> > CERTAIN that I AM STILL HERE. RIGHT NOW.
> >
> > Deny the above, and when you're 50 years older, tell them that I told you 
> > so, and that you should have considered the topic more deeply and saved 
> > yourself a whole lotta fuss and bother and tossing mucho buckazoids into 
> > collection plates.
> >
> > This sermon thus endeth on this last Sunday in 2012 -- The Year Of 
> > Unnecessary Dread
> >
> >
> 
> And what will 2013 bring?  How about the collapse of the dollar bringing 
> the collapse of the US economy about April?  That would bring massive 
> rioting and hence why they want to collect guns now (sorry it has 
> nothing to do with mentally unstable people shooting kids).   This is 
> not astrology but the logical progression of events.  Time will tell.
>

My guess is tr. Pluto in tropical Capricorn squaring tr. Uranus in
trop. Aries almost certainly "causes" something like that. I think
I told that several weeks back even on this forum, but am not
absolutely certain about that...

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