Yep, Xeno there's something about my life that I find very hard to convey, even in that long response to turq this morning. Often your writing comes closest to expressing what I experience. Funnily enough, Michael Jackson does too when he talks about energy. Because my daily life is very much about pursuing a course of action that energetically feels right if not always comfy. I'm often in a flow of no thoughts no emotions. Or if there are thoughts and emotions, it's the old lines on air situation.
But I still have to laugh when you all call me Pollyanna, etc. Because probably the TMO sees me as a rebel a renegade a curmudgeon. I never became a teacher. I pursue other paths for emotional healing. Though I do believe TM is essential for emotional growth I don't think it is sufficient for emotional healing, especially of traumatic childhood stuff. Sometimes I think flatness or boredom is the worst of all. Good luck with that. And I'd say don't mind turq on attention except that I know that you won't. Meanwhile, say hi to Wotan for me. PS I still intend to answer all your posts. This year (-: ________________________________ From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius <anartax...@yahoo.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 9:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Triguna Passes to Turq Just my opinion Barry, but I think you have missed something about how Share experiences life. Your attempts to penetrate the Pollyanna facade seem to bounce off like bullets on Superman. Maybe it is not entirely a facade. I did know someone in the movement who projected an über positive outlook under all circumstances, but seemed totally oblivious to what was actually transpiring in a practical sense. It always seemed like it was a strain for this person to keep it up. I do not get the sense that it is a strain for Share, or that she is a opaque as you seem to surmise, and perhaps your approach is not quite on target. How come you have not laid into me lately? I am not really saying much different than I did when I started on FFL, though I feel I have learned some things, attempting to find a way to express what I experience. I found your approach to me, which is similar to your approach with others, effective. I do think your repertoire could use a bit more variation and flexibility of approach. A pastry knife, or even a spatula sometimes is more effective than a rapier. I feel kind of flat today, having been ill for some days. Maybe I will make an offering to Wotan. When I feel like I want nothing to happen, there is nothing like Old Time Religion to make sure that nothing does. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > Share, since you so obviously don't get what I was doing, > I'm going to actually try to explain it to you. I know > in advance that it won't work, but I'll do it anyway. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > > > It was not an official sign by the TMO. There was no they > > involved. The sign was put up by an anonymous someone on > > the bulletin board in the coat room of the women's Dome > > where other life transitions such as births and weddings > > and birthdays and anniversaries are announced. That person > > was expressing their own opinion about Triguna's death > > occurring on Jan 1, the day when many are beginning the > > traditional week of silence. > > Share, your nitpick is as STOOOPID as when Judy does it. > I wasn't referring to the TMO as the TM organization per > se, as manifested in its administrators, but the TMO as > the whole group of (from my point of view) highly > dysfunctional people who believe in the same claptrap, > and so thoroughly that they 1) don't know it's claptrap, > and 2) actually believe that the world perceives them > as *normal* when they talk about the claptrap. > > *Of course* the sign wasn't "official." Duh. It was put > up by someone who wanted to suggest that the death of a > person who was once associated with the TM movement was > somehow more meaningful because it happened at the > beginning of a made-up holiday created by Maharishi, > and which no one else *but* TMers observe and feel is > in any way meaningful. From my point of view, it was > just another exercise in self-importance, trying to > imbue ordinary events with claptrap to make them seem > more meaningful, sprinkled with a scattering of "*We* > see the cosmic importance of him dying on this day -- > don't you?" elitism. > > > Yes, I know the world I inhabit. > > No, I honestly don't think you do. That is why I posted > what I did. You read some claptrap on a bulletin board > that was supposed to make you feel more important and > voila -- you not only feel more important, you pass it > along without a second thought, as if other people should > believe the claptrap as well. It's just what you DO, > whether the claptrap you're passing along is from TM > sources or from some visiting healer/charlatan. > > What I was trying to do was to present another point of > view on the subject, to see how you and other TBs would > react to it. I was trying to suggest that you live in a > very sheltered world in which many if not most of the > people around you tend to believe the same things, and > take them for granted. > > Things like marching across campus or across town like > lemmings twice a day, to bounce on your butts while think- > ing about cotton fiber and believing that this makes your > thoughts 10,000 times more powerful than other peoples' > thoughts. Things like doing this affects the weather and > the crime rate and will bring world peace. Things like > entering a building from the "wrong" direction will fuck > up your whole day. Things like paying indentured slaves > from India to chant or buttbounce for you will change > the world and make it a better place. Things like that. > > To you, unless I am mistaken, all of these things seem > completely NORMAL. This is just How The World Is. > > I'm trying to present a different point of view, one > that is more mainstream. It's that these things are > LOONEY TOONS, bordering on the crazy. > > You believe these things because you've spent decades > being indoctrinated to believe them, without ever giving > them a second thought. I have not. I left the TM world > long before most of this uber-weirdness ever appeared. > So to me it's *always* been weird, and bordering on > the crazy. I'm trying to present that point of view > to see whether you are capable of seeing that it is > *only* a different point of view, and not an "attack" > of some kind. > > I'm *NOT* angry at you or at Maharishi or at any of > the TM True Believers. I'm just *astounded* and *amazed* > that they can believe the things they believe. For me > it's like encountering a group of people who fervently > believe that the Earth is flat, or that the moon is > made of green cheese, and *cannot for the life of them > understand why everyone else doesn't believe this*. > > I push and prod every so often to see how the flat-earthers > and mooncheese-heads react, to see if they've lightened up > enough to step back and see themselves as the rest of the > world sees them, and laugh. So far you never have. >
