when you were part of the Amma thing, did you feel any sort of energy from her directly, or do you feel as some have said that she sort of takes energy from others and uses that to give to the crowd or was it a bit of both?
________________________________ From: Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.r...@gmail.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THIS is how spirituality should be done IMO Dear MJ, I don't know anything about Eckhart Tolle because I haven't read anything about him. Like I said I look for concrete, demonstrable mystical experiences causing altered states of consciousness. I doubt Eckhart had any - of all the people in the West I have read in recent times only Robin's experiences have been able to captivate my attention. Amma is the one I have lot of data on since I spent 16 years in he cult. Her autobiography, though mostly medeival mumbo-jumbo, has several descriptions of her mystical experiences. But eventually her interpretation of her mystical experiences in the context of Divine Mother and the crude, medeival beliefs of her village as if Divine Mother was an actual physical, objective entity is what led to her deception. There's also one video of her fallling unconscious in the middle of the river Ganges. So there is then even clear video evidence of her mystical experiences. Her wiki doesn't list all of this much because it has been tweaked to project her deception as a huminatarian - but even at the age of 24 the only thing that fascinated me was her mystical experience - rest of all was highly fantasized and required great leaps of imagination and magical thinking which my rational, analytical mind would never allow. Other examples below Jiddu Krishnamurti - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiddu_Krishnamurti "It was at Ojai in August and September 1922 that Krishnamurti went through an intense, "life-changing" experience.This has been variously characterized as a spiritual awakening, a psychological transformation, and a physical conditioning. The initial events happened in two distinct phases: first a three-day spiritual experience followed, two weeks later, by a longer-lasting condition that Krishnamurti and those around him would refer to as the process; this condition would recur, at frequent intervals and with varying intensity, until his death." Ramana Maharishi - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramana_Maharshi "At the age of sixteen, Venkataraman became suddenly aware that his real nature was imperishable and unrelated to his body, mind, or personality.[3] Though many people have reported brief experiences of this, in Venkataraman's case it was permanent and irreversible." More.." I seldom had any sickness and on that day there was nothing wrong with my health, but a sudden violent fear of death overtook me." Robin once posted an excellent link on Christian mystics of the past - http://www.miraclesofthesaints.com/2010/10/levitation-and-ecstatic-flights-in.html. But I don't take the levitation to be literal. However it's natural that the mystics interpreted their mystical experiences in the context of Christian doctrine and the prevailing social beliefs/customs, primitive knowledge - whether it be levitation or stigmata. Ravi. On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Michael Jackson <mjackso...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >Oh, one thing I will share is that this person said that without any doubt >Marshy was a Hindu fanatic his whole life and his "courting" if you will of >monks and so on of other religions was purely money motivated - he also said >that some of Marshy's family members who came to see him in Europe were pretty >shady characters, one of his uncles in particular. > > > > > > >________________________________ > From: seventhray27 <steve.sun...@yahoo.com> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 10:14 AM > >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: THIS is how spirituality should be done IMO > > > > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: >> >> I'm more persuaded by what those closest to him observed, like the skinboys, >> one of whom I spoke with the other night for a while - > > >I admire that. Anything to share from that conversation? > > > > > besides, anyone that wants to can speak directly to Mother Divine - since we >are all part of Divine Energy, all of us can connect - that's no big deal. > > > >
