Yes, Ann!  
He sounds depressed because he watches two women give to one man and they ain't 
inviting him in!  He waits for a rebound bonk, but will not be successful. Poor 
guy. heh

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Your comments are hilarious Ann!! Barry is not making much sense here, 
> granted. He seems to focus on the very worst prejudices in others, and take 
> that as the basis for argument. Sounds depressed. Hope you had a great 
> Valentines Day! 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" <awoelflebater@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Oh yeah, baby, free love if you let me. Lick that extra 
> > > > wet lick lick lick your face and all. Oh, don't forget 
> > > > that rubber! Hey, give me a full physical for everyone 
> > > > who swings and I will be a millionaire! 
> > > > Did you know that venereal disease is pretty common 
> > > > among the aging population? They like to wank the wong 
> > > > to barren wombs of the love canal! No pregnancy and 
> > > > viagra..whoopie! 
> > > > If it ain't good enough, time to wonder what her snatch 
> > > > feels like..and hers and his is bigger and turns to the 
> > > > left a bit more..
> > > > Good for you my ass. It means you are fucking bored with 
> > > > your partner. 
> > > 
> > > I shall allow this idiocy to stand on its own as an
> > > example of why obba has never succeeded in her attempts 
> > > to flirt with guys on FFL. Who could even *imagine* 
> > > getting it on with someone that ignorant?
> > 
> > Whoa, why the extreme reaction here Barry? Did you know that there are ways 
> > to address a difference of opinion with reason, class, openness and 
> > diplomacy? Yes indeed, it's true.
> > > 
> > > Instead I'll focus in one of my last posts for the 
> > > week on the excellent article that Alex found and 
> > > posted. It's about bloody time that someone did some 
> > > real studies on polyamorous relationships, to help 
> > > overcome the idiotic ideas that monogomaphobes have 
> > > about them. 
> > 
> > We get the picture, anyone who is a monogomaphobe (which, of course is not 
> > even close to being a real word) is an "idiot". Oh, and you are about to 
> > enlighten all of us on why and how open minded and enlightened you are on 
> > the subject. Let's take a look:
> > > 
> > > Living as I do as a non-involved fly on the wall in a
> > > polyamorous household, I have a more realistic picture
> > > of what is involved in nonmonogamous relationships than
> > > most. If there is a single word that characterizes the 
> > > successful ones I've seen, that word is *honesty*. 
> > 
> > Ohhhhh, you are amazing. And what an original conclusion. "Honesty" who 
> > would have thought? And all this time I thought it was about how good 
> > looking the other partner was that kept a relationship intact.
> > > 
> > > It's not about the sex, or as the idiot above suggests,
> > > about being bored with one's partner. It's about having
> > > the freedom to have more than one partner if one is
> > > "drawn that way." Claiming that "there can be only one"
> > > is as stupid in romantic relationships as it is for the
> > > people who claim that "seeing other teachers" is suffic-
> > > ient grounds to excommunicate someone from a spiritual
> > > organization. And even in that parallel, as we all know
> > > from the history of the TMO, people are willing to
> > > *overlook* "straying" to other teachers AS LONG AS
> > > THOSE WHO DO IT *LIE* ABOUT IT. It's the *openness*
> > > and the *non-willingness* to lie about one's actions
> > > or apologize for them that the sexual prudes and the 
> > > spiritual fascists hate.
> > 
> > Let's see now, how sophisticated is Barry's rebuttal? How do his words here 
> > beckon us, entice us to read and take what he says seriously due to their 
> > reasonable nature and sense of empathy for the reader? He uses in the short 
> > paragraph above the following words and statements as the ultimate allure 
> > for us readers: "idiot", "stupid", "sexual prudes", "spiritual fascists". 
> > Gee, don't know about the rest of you but I'm transfixed by this human who 
> > could write this way. In fact, I am downright infatuated with love/lust. 
> > Barry, you're the man.
> > > 
> > > I've seen the non-lying, open approach to relationships
> > > WORK, and work well in nonmonogamous relationships. 
> > > Alas, I cannot say that for most of the monogamous 
> > > relationships I've been exposed to. While publicly 
> > > clinging to the notion of monogamy, all one has to do
> > > is look at divorce statistics to see that over 50% of
> > > them are more often than not a rats' nest of lies, as 
> > > one or both partners step out on the other, lying about 
> > > it the whole time. *And*, as pointed out in the article, 
> > > taking insane chances of contracting STDs while doing 
> > > so, because they're in such a state of denial about 
> > > what they're doing that they don't even carry condoms 
> > > with them. 
> > > 
> > > The person who benefits most from the particular non-
> > > monogamous relationship I live with is 4-year-old Maya.
> > > She is fortunate enough to have two loving mothers and
> > > one loving father, not to mention a weird Uncle who is
> > > not romantically involved with any of them but approves
> > > fully of what they are doing -- all to take care of her
> > > and teach her things. It's a remarkably *honest* envir-
> > > onment, one that I'm pretty sure will enable Maya to 
> > > grow up to be honest herself. 
> > 
> > Methinks Barry has gone off on one big tangent here. Oh Barry, we're over 
> > here.
> > > 
> > > Like the other members of the extended family I live with,
> > > I often grow tired of the things that supposedly monoga-
> > > mous people project onto nonmonogamous relationships, 
> > > and the holier-than-thou bullshit they proclaim, all 
> > > while screwing their secretaries and Pilates instructors
> > > on the side and lying about it. Fuck them all. Give me
> > > people who have the courage to be honest any day. 
> > 
> > I think he has hit a cesspool of bile here. Barry, spit it out, just don't 
> > get my shoes wet.
> > > 
> > > The French had it right all along:
> > > http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/01/world/europe/mazarine-pingeot-mitterrand-daughter-looks-back.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
> > > 
> > > Meanwhile, back in the TMO, you've got such a culture of 
> > > lying that Maharishi could never admit to getting it on
> > > with his female students (and we can be pretty sure that
> > > when he did he was in such denial about it that he didn't
> > > use condoms) and that King Tony can't admit even to his 
> > > closest friends that he's legally *married*. No wonder no 
> > > one has any respect for TMers. They've turned hypocrisy
> > > into an artform. 
> > 
> > Still on the other tangent and getting further away; will someone please go 
> > and bring him back? At this rate he's going to get lost, miss his afternoon 
> > nap and become even grumpier. Any volunteers?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/sexual-revolution-polyamory-may-good-154751829.html
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Valentine's Day, images of couples are everywhere. They're buying 
> > > > > each other diamond rings, making eyes over expensive restaurant meals 
> > > > > and canoodling over chocolate-covered strawberries and champagne. But 
> > > > > two-by-two isn't the only way to go through life. In fact, an 
> > > > > estimated 4 to 5 percent of Americans are looking outside their 
> > > > > relationship for love and sex — with their partner's full permission.
> > > > > 
> > > > > These consensually nonmonogamous relationships, as they're called, 
> > > > > don't conform to the cultural norm of a handholding couple in love 
> > > > > for life. They come in a dizzying array of forms, from occasional 
> > > > > "swinging" and open relationships to long-term commitments among 
> > > > > multiple people. Now, social scientists embarking on brand-new 
> > > > > research into these types of relationships are finding that they may 
> > > > > challenge the ways we think of jealousy, commitment and love. They 
> > > > > may even change monogamy for the better.
> > > > > 
> > > > > "People in these relationships really communicate. They communicate 
> > > > > to death," said Bjarne Holmes, a psychologist at Champlain College in 
> > > > > Vermont. All of that negotiation may hold a lesson for the 
> > > > > monogamously inclined, Holmes told LiveScience.
> > > > > 
> > > > > "They are potentially doing quite a lot of things that could turn out 
> > > > > to be things that if people who are practicing monogamy did more of, 
> > > > > their relationships would actually be better off," Holmes said.
> > > > > 
> > > > > [rest of story at link]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


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