--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <feste37@> wrote:
> >
> > But your taxes are higher in Canada, I assume. They must 
> > be, if you have virtually free health care. 
> 
> I will chime in here, to point out that you are making
> unwarranted assumptions. Re Canada, you are failing to
> consider whether the actual *costs* of health care might
> not be lower. Which they are. Same in France and Spain
> and the Netherlands, all of which I have some experience
> with. In France, for example, a one-hour doctor's visit
> (assuming no insurance to pay for it, and *not* being a
> French resident) costs 30 Euros. 
> 
> One of the reasons this is true is that these companies
> have not gone down the road that America has for many
> decades, allowing greedy hospitals, doctors, HMOs, 
> insurance companies, and pharmaceutical companies to
> artificially escalate prices to outrageous levels that
> are completely out of accord with what it costs them
> to provide their services. No pharmaceutical company
> in any of these countries could get away with charging
> what American suppliers charge for drugs; the govern-
> ments would just step in and refuse to do business
> with them unless they lowered their prices. Same with
> the doctors themselves, and what they charge.
> 
> In Canada (I know because I lived there for some years),
> another factor that keeps their health care costs low
> is, strangely enough, differences in the *legal system*. 
> The Canadian legal system mirrors (or did when I lived
> there) the English system, meaning that all services
> provided by lawyers are fee-based. Lawyers get paid by
> the hour or at a previously-agreed-upon rate for a 
> common service. There is no such thing as a "continency
> fee," whereby lawyers take cases on a speculative basis,
> knowing that they'll get 30% of any settlement amount.
> 
> As a result, there has (again, as of when I lived there)
> a medical malpractice suit for a fee over a million 
> dollars in Canada. (In the US, such suits are often for
> tens or hundreds of millions of dollars, all fueled by
> greedy lawyers hoping for their 30%.) This also tends
> to keep costs lower, because doctors don't have to pay
> as much for malpractice insurance. 
> 
> Finally, but not to be disregarded, having a medical
> system in which *preventative* care is free or cheap
> has an *immense* effect on reducing overall health care
> costs. In the US, where a *huge* percentage of the 
> population has no health insurance at all, their only
> option is to go to an emergency room and hope that they
> won't get thrown out. This means NO preventative care,
> and thus that conditions that could have been easily
> caught and treated inexpensively escalate into serious
> diseases that cost a fortune to treat. 
> 
> So get over your belief that everyone who lives in a 
> country with good medical care pays through the nose for
> it in taxes. This simply isn't true. That's just what the
> greedy bastards who are profiting from your ignorance
> want you to believe.
>

That's not what I said at all. I don't know why you are responding in such an 
unpleasant tone to what was a nonconfrontational post on my part. What the fuck 
is your problem?

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