--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok <no_reply@...> wrote: snip
The movement uppers and Rajas would have wanted the body to be burried, and have a real Samadhi, but the current Shankaracharya, even though supportive of the movement did not allow. Real Samadhi? By being buried. How does that work exactly? > > The question for me is therefore: how much do you believe in the caste system and all the orthodox rules? If I don't believe in the caste system, I have no reason to reject OM for meditation. In fact it would simplify things a lot. Everybody knows it, knows it's proper pronunciation, and it is not directly connected to any gods, it is not sectarian or cultic. > > For example Shree Rama Jaya Raam Jaya Jaya Raam is a Vaishnavic Mantra and associated with Rama. There might be Shaivas who don't like it. There are Shaivas who don't visit Vaishanava temples. > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I think there is only one truly Vedic mantra and that is OM. > > > > > > Dear Nava, > > > Real TM tru-believers strongly hold that Maharishi's revival of Knowledge has saved India from `Om". I have been lectured several times on this very point by extremely faithful TM people who seem quite convinced. You'll notice that none of the TM versions of mantras on the TM-X website notice `Om' as any part of a TM mantra. Though Shri Vidya and everyone else going back use "Om" to initiate or energized mantras. Is TM missing something? Maharishi uniquely seems a Vedic out-layer on this in the distribution of sages on mantras. > > > I like `Om' myself to spin the root and tune the heart and then go from there. But that is different from TM and should not be confused even though chakras well light up upon proper awareness and practice of the TM-sidhis. But at that point it is independent of employing 'Om' or much of anything else. > > > Best Regards from Fairfield, > > > -Buck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <richard@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > navashok: > > > > > > Where does the TM technique come from? > > > > > > > > > > > From India and the Vedas? LoL! > > > > > > > > > > According to Mircea Eliade, only the rudiments of classic > > > > > Yoga are to be found in the Vedas, and while shamanism and > > > > > other techniques of ecstasy are documented among other > > > > > Indo-European people, "Yoga is to be found only in India > > > > > and in cultures influenced by Indian spirituality" (102). > > > > > > > > I think there is only one truly Vedic mantra and that is OM. What Maharishi teaches as the Vedic tradition is actually the Tantric tradition appropriated by Brahmanism, through the teaching of Shri Vidhya. With Vedic literature, he means the Agamas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Work cited: > > > > > > > > > > 'Yoga : Immortality and Freedom' > > > > > by Mircea Eliade > > > > > Princeton University Press, 1970 > > > > > > > > > > Read more: > > > > > > > > > > Subject: A decomposition of practice ertswhile abusers lore > > > > > Author: Willytex > > > > > Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental > > > > > Date: February 6, 2005 > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/ykqy7zh > > > > > > > > > > Other titles of interst: > > > > > > > > > > 'Shamanism: Archaic Techniques of Ecstasy' > > > > > by Mircea Eliade > > > > > Princeton University Press; 2004 > > > > > > > > > > 'The Yoga Tradition: Its History, Literature, > > > > > Philosophy and Practice' > > > > > by Georg Feuerstein and Ken Wilbur > > > > > Hohm Press, 2001 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
