I find it difficult to believe that anyone can see the
events of the last few days on FFL as anything other than
the same people repeating the same things they've done 
for years.

First, Judy attempts to lure Curtis into one of her long,
"I win by definition" arguments by *appearing* to ask 
reasonable questions. Then Curtis falls for it, and tries
his best to address her questions, while respecting the
fact that she sees things that way, given her near-absolute
lack of experience within the TMO, and that she is trying 
her best to pretend that the reality of the TMO and the 
things it teaches are the same as that presented in the 
intro lectures.

As *everyone* here expected, within a couple of posts Judy
was back to name-calling. That WAS the whole purpose of her
questions in the first place, after all, to open up an
opportunity for her to yell at one of her long-term enemies
and attempt to get other people to do the same. And sure
enough, her cohorts in idiocy did just that, with Ann, Ravi,
and Jim piling on to diss not only Curtis, but *anyone* who
found what he said accurate, or even interesting. 

WHY do people keep falling for this shit? You KNOW what is
going to happen if you interact with Judy Stein? You KNOW
that within a couple of "pretend nice" posts she'll have 
turned it into another of her bat-shit-crazy demonization 
sessions. WHY do you even bother to get involved? 

The woman is not worth pissing on, much less conversing
with. ANYONE here, including Steve, myself, and anyone with
half a brain and a memory, KNEW what was going to happen
the moment that Curtis took the bait. And, of course, 
it did. 

The amazing part to me is that people who actually WERE 
part of the TMO, and got involved with it past the point
of the duplicitous intro lectures, bother to try to argue
things with a couple of people who never did. (Jim and 
Judy) THEY never had any experience of what was *really*
taught to TM teachers, and of the pressures put on them
to make sacrifices and ignore other responsibilities to
be "full-time" and to "go on the Next Course, the one 
that will finally work for you." Neither of them cared
enough about Maharishi and his teachings to ever even
try to MEET Maharishi, ferchrissakes. EVERYTHING they
say is based on taped lectures or stuff they've read;
NOTHING based on rubber-meets-the-road experience within
the organization they're so desperate to defend, at the
peon level, the level of student that Maharishi didn't
even bother to try to rip off and indoctrinate...unless
they were rich, of course. 

So what they do is parrot the things that *they* heard,
in the intro lectures and the few short courses they did
manage to show up for, and pretend that this is "how TM
was really taught." That's total BULLSHIT, and I'm aghast
that people keep falling for it. 

Please, people, LEARN from this and "avoid the pain that
has not yet come" next time. The *next* time Judy tries
to lure one of you into her endless arguments, recognize
in advance that all she is doing is trying to set up yet 
another opportunity to yell at someone. That's ALL she 
has, and ALL that she lives for. She's the Internet 
counterpart of a shopping cart lady, cruising the streets 
looking deperately for someone -- ANYONE -- to scream at. 
Do what smart passersby learn to do with such bag ladies, 
and IGNORE HER DEMENTED ASS. 




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