"If TM has failed you, has anything else taken its place and succeeded in whatever it is you are aiming at? Techniques and practices have a lifetime. Like a multi-stage rocket, where the lower stages fall away to get the payload in orbit, at some point spiritual machinations wear thin. But by then one should be close to a significant result."
Well, I have done other meditations but I have decided that "enlightenment" as defined by Marshy and even by the vedas is a bit of a fantasy - so I have no spiritual goal as such except to behave well in life, which my parents taught me anyway so....... ________________________________ From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius <anartax...@yahoo.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 10:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Being Special --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@...> wrote: > > Some time ago I posed the question that if, as Marshy always claimed, TM is > better, superior to all other meditations, how can that be so, what makes TM > special? > > In addition to being reviled for supposedly setting up a condition which > would allow me to take shots at the TMO, I was told that it was not the > mantras that are successful, but rather the fantastic instruction on how to > use said mantras. > > Complete horseshit. If that were the case, then you really could use any word > as long as you used it the way Marshy told everyone to use his mantras. And > we know that ain't right. > > The mantras are as good as any others but even you true believers have said > the mantras are not superior to others, its the WAY they are used. But if its > the instruction, then any word should do, so why have the mantras at all? > > So with TM being special, it has to either be the mantras or the way you use > them or a combination - I don't see the instruction as being all that special > - its not much different than other meditations including Deepak Chopra's > Primordial Sound meditation and others where you are told to just not pay > attention to thoughts and bring the awareness back to whatever when you > notice you are on a thought. > > Thus we can see quite clearly that the idea that TM is a superior meditation, > or as Marshy put it, the "jet plane" to enlightenment is complete nonsense, > or to be more precise, a lie. > > Now of course if one believes Mark Landau, then one knows that mantras are > repeated to actually receive the blessings of whatever > goddess the sound is associated with - in other words its about doing a > practice to git something, its about accrual of power, not transcending to > gain enlightenment. > > Oh and Richard W, we all know the blabbity blab blab about all things TM > coming from some Buddhist temple or other so no need to repeat it. > > And I was not setting up a situation to enable me to revile the Movement - I > can do that all on my own. As I have said before, I am willing to believe > anything, but not without evidence. > > Thus far, the evidence I have collected has shown me that Marshy was a liar, > perhaps well intentioned in the beginning but soon after he left India he > allowed himself to be seduced by the blandishments of the ego. > > The evidence I have also shows me that TM is a decent meditation, but no more > special than anything else available and yet most of the claims made for it > are false, such as enlightenment accruing from said practice and ability to > fly etc, also all claims made of TM Sidhis are false (like world peace). > > The evidence is that TM has caused many problems on multiple levels for > thousands of people, and that thousands of others have ceased the practice > due to many reasons. > > Other evidence is that long term practice doesn't lead to any kind of > superlative behavior as demonstrated by the TMO leaders and managers. Given > the downside of TM, the evidence is that other meditations are far superior > to TM since few of them have the kind of baggage that TM has. > If TM has failed you, has anything else taken its place and succeeded in whatever it is you are aiming at? Techniques and practices have a lifetime. Like a multi-stage rocket, where the lower stages fall away to get the payload in orbit, at some point spiritual machinations wear thin. But by then one should be close to a significant result.
