Well, it's about effin time isn't it? The fort is about three quarters of the way burnt down, and here Ravi comes with a puny little fire extinquisher.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@...> wrote: > > An awesome display of grace, poise, honesty and integrity dear Judy - while > being under this nauseating attack by the forces of deception, manipulation > viz His Holiness Curtis; idiocy viz Steve, laughinggull, feste; > inauthentic, passive aggressive, vindictive, neurotic birches viz Share, > platitude puking Gurus viz Guru Xeno and the pure, unadulterated stench of > His Filthiness King Baby Barry. > > Love, > Ravi > > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 12:15 PM, curtisdeltablues < > curtisdeltablues@... wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > There is a secret under all your bluff and bluster Judy. > > > > This is why you have to derail all conversations into idiotic word parsing > > like this beyond all reason. You can't follow conversations here with any > > depth. > > > > It is why you are eager to engage people about the details of what Robin > > said about his enlightenment by cutting and pasting, but you never tried to > > engage in a conversation about the problems with his epistemology. > > > > So here you are once again trying so desperately to get a pat on the head > > for your blindly following his misunderstanding into the ground. > > > > Come on Robin, she is willing to show up as a complete idiot for you. > > > > And here we come to a problem with no solution. > > > > He knows your secret too. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" authfriend@ wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > (snip) > > > > > > > FWIW Curtis, this was my understanding when I first read > > > > > > > your response of "...from the outset" as being the *current* > > > > > > > exchange...not going back to the beginning. It surprises me > > > > > > > that Robin, in his response, doesn't seem to understand this, > > > > > > > but at least he's consistent...or maybe he's being ironic > > > > > > > (disingenuous smiley face). > > > > > > > > > > FWIW, when I read Curtis's response, I also thought he meant > > > > > going back to the beginning (this was before I'd read Robin's > > > > > reply saying the same thing). > > > > > > > > on·set > > > > noun > > > > 1. a beginning or start: the onset of winter. > > > > 2. an assault or attack: an onset of the enemy. > > > > > > Actually the word you used was "outset," not "onset." > > > > > > "Outset" can't be used in your sense #2 for "onset" > > > above. "Outset" just means "beginning" or "start." > > > > > > But you knew that. > > > > > > Since you have no substantive comments, let alone any > > > refutations, of any of the case I made, there's > > > nothing else in this post for me to respond to, > > > thankfully. > > > > > > Stevie and laughinggull and possibly even feste will > > > no doubt find your rejoinder brilliant, however, so > > > it will have been worth your time. > > > > > > *plonk* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please continue... > > > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > > My experience of you, Curtis, has been that you are > > > > > consistently dishonest. You're usually quite subtle about > > > > > it, such that only the person you're being dishonest *with* > > > > > is likely to be able to spot it. > > > > > > > > > > "From the outset" is a very peculiar way to refer to the > > > > > most recent in a long series of exchanges. The most obvious > > > > > understanding would be that you meant from the outset of > > > > > the series. The idea that "From the outset" meant the most > > > > > recent seems to me to be the twisted one. > > > > > > > > > > I think if you had meant the most recent one you would > > > > > have indicated this, e.g., "From the outset of your most > > > > > recent exchange with Share..." > > > > > > > > > > That you claim to be unable to understand how anyone could > > > > > have assumed you did not mean the most recent exchange says > > > > > to me that you are being disingenuous, at the very least > > > > > about how "obvious" it was that you did mean the most recent. > > > > > It was not at all obvious, it was ambiguous. And you being a > > > > > wordsmith of sorts should have been able to easily recognize > > > > > the potential for misunderstanding. > > > > > > > > > > If that's what it was. I think you are actually trying to > > > > > backpedal from a mistake. > > > > > > > > > > You were not here, after all, when Robin and Share began > > > > > their conversations, which were indeed extremely friendly. > > > > > > > > > > You returned to FFL after a longish absence several weeks > > > > > later, just in time to see Share turn on Robin based on > > > > > her misunderstanding of something he had said to her. > > > > > > > > > > You leaped into their conflict without knowing how Share > > > > > had misrepresented the situation, having seen an > > > > > opportunity to attack Robin by supporting Share. You > > > > > claimed he had been deliberately setting her up for a > > > > > confrontation, an idea she eagerly picked up on. It made > > > > > an appearance later on in her unconscionable claim that > > > > > she had been "psychologically raped" by Robin. > > > > > > > > > > I believe that's what you were remembering, and why you > > > > > assumed Robin's "mission" with Share had never been > > > > > friendly. > > > > > > > > > > That conflict, not incidentally, hardly exemplified the > > > > > "interactions with the intention to understand" you go > > > > > on here to tout, on either Share's part or your own. Your > > > > > present insistence on the "obviousness" of your meaning > > > > > for "From the outset..." is another example of the lack > > > > > of intention to understand on your part. > > > > > > > > > > And then there's the interesting fact of the rest of that > > > > > paragraph: > > > > > > > > > > "From the outset your mission with Share has been unfriendly > > > > > and she has done a pretty good job of handling herself > > > > > considering that you are just letting her have it with both > > > > > barrels about herself, uninvited. It reminds me of our > > > > > conversations which followed the same arc, although I at > > > > > lest got some flowers and chocolates at the door before the > > > > > assault." > > > > > > > > > > "Flowers and chocolates at the door" does not refer to your > > > > > current exchange with Robin. What you were reminded of by > > > > > Robin's exchanges with Share was your early conversations > > > > > with him. One more reason to suspect that by "From the > > > > > outset" you meant from his early exchanges with her--except > > > > > that you weren't aware of the "flowers and chocolates" she > > > > > had received from him, hence your phrase "at le[a]st." > > > > > > > > > > Your walkback here is only marginally plausible. You should, > > > > > as Robin says, have just copped to making a mistake. That > > > > > would have been no big deal. > > > > > > > > http://youtu.be/3_I8RCUpe-c (as in 5, 18, and/or 20 below) > > > > > > > > verb (used with object) > > > > 1. to combine, as two or more strands or threads, by winding together; > > intertwine. > > > > 2. to form by or as if by winding strands together: Several fibers > > were used to twist the rope. > > > > 3. to entwine (one thing) with another; interlace (something) with > > something else; interweave; plait. > > > > 4. to wind or coil (something) about something else; encircle; > > entwine; wreathe. > > > > 5. to alter in shape, as by turning the ends in opposite directions, > > so that parts previously in the same straight line and plane are located in > > a spiral curve: The sculptor twisted the form into an arabesque. He twisted > > his body around to look behind him. > > > > > > > > verb (used without object) > > > > 16. to be or become intertwined. > > > > 17. to wind or twine about something. > > > > 18. to writhe or squirm. > > > > 19. to take a spiral form or course; wind, curve, or bend. > > > > 20. to turn or rotate, as on an axis; revolve, as about something; > > spin. > > > > > > > > please continue... > > > > > > > > > Finally, in Robin's current exchange with Share, his > > > > > remarks about her avoidance of reality were (of course!) > > > > > "uninvited"--but they were, as you know, by no means > > > > > *unprovoked*. > > > > > > > > > > Speaking of inadvertent irony: > > > > > > > > > > > But I am seeing it all as more formulaic than genuine > > > > > > interaction. Judy runs the exact same DLL program. It > > > > > > is the exact opposite of interactions with the intention > > > > > > to understand. > > > > > > > > > > Robin has your modus operandi nailed, Curtis. When conflict > > > > > is involved, your intention--your formula--is to *prevent* > > > > > "genuine interaction" and proclaim CurtisTruth by fiat. > > > > > > > > Brown tears leaving streaks, > > > > She uses toilet paper > > > > in lieu of tissue. > > > > > > > > (deep bow to thunderous applause from appreciative audience) > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
