On Apr 17, 2013, at 2:06 PM, "seventhray27" <steve.sun...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> >
> > Ha - you don't see any difference in Share's post and some curious 
> > questions by MJ?
> > 
> > Anyway love to hear on what you think Kali is :-).
> > 
> > I know you are not the smartest so here's a clue to help you - Kali's not a 
> > vile, vindictive bitch.
> 
> 
> Excellent Ravi.  Excellent.  See, you're not as dimwitted as some people make 
> you out to be.  And I'm going to point this out when people accuse you so.  
> Yes I am.

You are cracking me up Steve - I have never met people like that, not even 
remotely, regardless of whether they love or hate me. But of course some idiots 
like you may want to really convince themselves, I say all power to you - 
whatever helps you cope :-)

You never answer my question - so again - oh Steve baby enlighten us on Kali - 
clue, she's not a vile, vindictive bitch.



> > 
> > On Apr 17, 2013, at 12:20 PM, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@... wrote:
> > 
> > > Share, you got your Kali out, and I like it immensely. But even your Kali 
> > > is always tempered with a big dose of realism and compassion. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Did you notice the other day when Ravi was conversing with Michael and 
> > > (to a lesser extent), me in a, what you might call, "normal" fashion. 
> > > Just some back and forth. No lording over, no "I AM THIS, THAT, AND THE 
> > > OTHER, thing going on. I thought it was pretty cool. But I figured it 
> > > wouldn't last long, and sure enough, it didn't.
> > > 
> > > I'm gonna go back and read his comment that elicited this response on 
> > > your part.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ravi, the first week you were in San Diego, you sounded happy. But the 
> > > > longer you stay there, the more miserable you sound. And sadly you've 
> > > > just about totally lost your sense of humor. I hope your project there 
> > > > ends soon and you can return home and be happy again. 
> > > > 
> > > > BTW I agree that Robin does not have to dumb down his brilliance for 
> > > > anyone and I think that many of us feel the beauty of his words 
> > > > sometimes. I'm talking about the other times when one needs a buzzsaw 
> > > > to cut through the jungle of words and phrases to get to the conceptual 
> > > > oasis. And don't even get me started on the Irony! For that one needs 
> > > > as reading assistant, the two headed Hydra, one head parsing for the 
> > > > straight forward meaning and one for the Descartian doubt technique 
> > > > meaning. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
> > > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:28 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S 
> > > > VALENTINE
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Â 
> > > > OMG - hilarious stuff dear Share - what a clueless, dishonest person 
> > > > you are. Judy has exposed your lies several times - yet you are 
> > > > unwilling, unable to see it.
> > > > 
> > > > No - Robin doesn't have to dumb down his brilliance for you, Barry, LG 
> > > > and Steve, all you need is a dictionary, a heart to feel the beauty of 
> > > > his words.
> > > > 
> > > > I will get to your garbage when I have some time.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Apr 17, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Â 
> > > > >laughinggull I want to say that sometimes I find Robin's writing 
> > > > >simple and clear. But very often I find it unclear and voluminous 
> > > > >which for me adds up to unreadable. IMO Judy demonstrates a certain 
> > > > >kind of co dependent arrogance every time she berates people for not 
> > > > >getting off their butts, putting in the effort, etc. to understand 
> > > > >Robin's writing. Other posters here manages many times to be both 
> > > > >clear AND profound. Why can't Robin? Ok, ok, people have a right to 
> > > > >have their unique voice. And I actually enjoy all the different 
> > > > >writing styles. But if a person wants to be understood, wouldn't they 
> > > > >make an attempt to write more clearly for their audience? Especially 
> > > > >given that at other times they are able to do so?    
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >________________________________
> > > > > From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:25 AM
> > > > >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S 
> > > > >VALENTINE
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Â 
> > > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" authfriend@ wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Aw shucks, dumbass, I was rooting for ya not only that you
> > > > >> > *would* do it but *could* do it...very similar to the "dog
> > > > >> > ate my homework". Well, Steve, it'll remain in the holy
> > > > >> > archives that you *did* try, just as others here have
> > > > >> > asked those "in the know" to interpret the writings of you
> > > > >> > know who.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Uh-oh, LG, you're going the route of the other prevaricators
> > > > >> around here. One of their tricks is not to use names, which
> > > > >> they think makes it safe for them to seriously distort an
> > > > >> incident in which these pseudo-anonymous folks have been
> > > > >> involved, making it sound shifty.
> > > > >
> > > > >My purposeful removal of names, as in this case, was so as not to 
> > > > >bring more attention to those that probably crave it.
> > > > >
> > > > >> We know who "you know who" is, of course. But "others here"
> > > > >> refers to Xeno and "those 'in the know'" refers to me.
> > > > >
> > > > >"Others here" now includes Steve, and also includes me as I've asked 
> > > > >Robin on at least one occasion to explain in language that I can 
> > > > >understand without all the other stuff that merely confuses the point 
> > > > >he is making. "In the know" now includes dumbass, and might also 
> > > > >include Ann, RD, and Emily who on several occasions have indicated 
> > > > >that they understand what he has written.
> > > > >
> > > > >> Here's what really happened: Xeno demanded that I interpret
> > > > >> some post of Robin's *in order to prove* that I understood
> > > > >> him, and I refused to do any interpreting on that basis. I
> > > > >> considered it insulting, given that I had already spent a
> > > > >> huge amount of time explaining Robin to people (including
> > > > >> Xeno) who couldn't take the time to read his posts, or at
> > > > >> least to put any effort into absorbing what he had said.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> > The evidence seems to be leaning towards nobody really
> > > > >> > knows what he's talking about.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> No, there's no such evidence. I think what you mean is
> > > > >> that *you* have trouble understanding him. We know he
> > > > >> confuses Steve and Xeno and Barry and Share as well, but
> > > > >> the five of you aren't everybody.
> > > > >
> > > > >You are correct...I have great trouble understanding him.
> > > > >
> > > > >> Too bad as I was really
> > > > >> > hoping that we had a saint in our midst.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Well, that was pretty silly, wasn't it? You know, since
> > > > >> Robin himself would be the first person to discourage the
> > > > >> notion. Nor did DrD suggest such a thing. Robin is 
> > > > >> REEEEEELY REEEEELY smart, but he ain't no saint.
> > > > >
> > > > >That was the final snarky jab there. While maybe not a saint, I'm 
> > > > >always hoping I can learn something from everyone who comments here.
> > > > >
> > > > >> Also, it appears neither you nor Steve read what DrD
> > > > >> wrote with attention. He was suggesting that folks try
> > > > >> validating his analysis of Robin's writing for themselves,
> > > > >> not offering to do it for them.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Hmm, now I'm beginning to see what's behind this. You and
> > > > >> Steve don't want to risk the attempt, because if you tried
> > > > >> and couldn't see what DrD describes, you'd be hesitant to
> > > > >> report your failure lest it appear that it was due to your
> > > > >> lack of comprehension, rather than DrD's analysis being
> > > > >> faulty.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> So your cowardice in this regard leads you to imply that
> > > > >> DrD and I have been posturing and that Robin has said
> > > > >> nothing of any significance.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> I would expect that kind of craven maneuver from Steve.
> > > > >> I'm surprised to see you engaging in it, LG.
> > > > >
> > > > >It's not deliberate by any means but rather arises from a sense of 
> > > > >frustration in not being about to understand what someone is writing. 
> > > > >BTW, Robin's not the only one whose writing I don't get. I'm open to 
> > > > >understanding but none of you are helping other than to say get off 
> > > > >your ass, put some work into it, or provide links to the posts so we 
> > > > >can go back and read them again. Don't you see how circular this is? 
> > > > >And your explanations are by no means succinct nor easy to understand.
> > > > >
> > > > >Perhaps one of my motives *is* to prove you wrong but for the life of 
> > > > >me, I don't know why. I guess I have some work ahead.
> > > > >
> > > > >> The really interesting thing is that Robin isn't all that
> > > > >> hard to understand for those willing to put a little effort
> > > > >> into it.
> > > > >
> > > > >But is the effort worth the reward?
> > > > >
> > > > >[snip]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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