On 04/28/2013 03:46 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
> On 04/28/2013 03:07 PM, martyboi wrote:
>> The main reason Sbucks is in trouble is that young people think it's where 
>> gramps goes to get a cup o' joe. The current trend is privately-owned, 
>> coffee shops with free super fast wifi - which is a probably good thing. 
>> Most don't seem to really care what the coffee tastes like as long as the 
>> joint is unique and all four genders are equally represented (gay, straight, 
>> mixed, neutral.)
> Independents fail if they don't have a consistently good grind.  The
> independents here fail on that for the most part.  One local shop did
> get roasts from company founded by Peet's founder but it closed.  The
> bagel shop up the hill across from Starbucks just uses a blah restaurant
> supplier roast.  Only Starbucks really has any decent place for folks to
> get together socially.  And I wouldn't dare get a cup of coffee at the
> competitors and sit in the Starbuck's patio.   For those who want to get
> drinks elsewhere the city did put in a couple of benches near the
> patio.  As it is I bring my own eats since Starbuck's raised their
> bakery goods prices and made them smaller.  As for wifi the downtown has
> city sponsored wifi which you can get anywhere downtown.  Closer to the
> court house is an independent who will make you a press coffee with a
> good grind for $2.  Except you may have to wait for it as they can only
> deal with one person at a time.
>
> Most of the time I fix my own espressos at home and use a Cuban grind
> that come ready for espresso in a 16 oz can for only $5.50. Going to
> Starbucks is really for socializing in an area where most people tend to
> keep to themselves.

And though it happened some time ago Starbucks has little to fear as a 
friend reminded me that Starbuck's bought Seattle's Best.  That happened 
about a decade ago and now I do dimly recall hearing about it.


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