Well congratulations - it's official Curtis - you are genuinely, innocently, honestly retarded. LOL.
Your primary defensive, offensive mechanism is your self-righteous spin which constantly protects your self-interest. You will not hesitate to pummel, pulverize, petrify truth with your malicious, devious self-righteous spin in your relentless defense of your perceived image, your self-interest and your POV. Bravo !!! On Apr 29, 2013, at 10:37 AM, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@...> > wrote: > > > > Curtis - Now that I'm done expressing myself on this topic why don't you > > reiterate your demand to Judy, raunchy and Ann to challenge me here.> > > It wasn't a demand, it was an invitation. Predictably it was not taken. > > < Unlike you and Barry I would love to be challenged and corrected, though I > may be running out of posts and have to get to it next week.> > > Well I haven't noticed that about you Ravi, you seem to fly off the handle > pretty easily and start throwing the contents of your diaper. But you are in > a protected class with them so you have nothing to worry about. (Hey what > about those blacks, wink, wink.) > > > > > Remember my other point which you ignore in your self-righteous spin - why > > are my posts not stand up routines and not fall under artists's freedom to > > be provocative and indulge in overt misogyny and racism if need be.> > > Because you set it up carefully as being serious. Are you claiming now that > you were joking and doing schtick on Republican assholes who share the views > in your overgeneralized statement? > > Humor that makes fun of racists is really hard to do, it requires a context > to make sure the audience is in on the joke. > > You didn't set it up that way. > > Here is your "stand-up" routine as you presented it: > > Dear Emily - I love black culture, black people for their heart-centeredness > - heck I loved 2Pac's dear mama, but since I don't suffer from any White > guilt and burden, nor I am I trying to spin it for a yuppie audience I will > say that most of the culture is very crude, misogynistic. Who doesn't love > their mom's - I am sorry - but is that enough and then you let your partner > fend for herself, forcing her to have multiple children for maximum food > stamps while your deadbeat ass languishes in jail. It's terribly hard to be a > black woman. Fine to be sexist, misogynistic as an artistic expression in > music, movie for entertainment but surely not a prescription for a modern, > liberal, sophisticated society. > > So who else believes that Ravi was doing schtick on racist viewpoints, making > fun of THEM? Was the biggest laugh line supposed to be: "I will say that most > of the culture is very crude, misogynistic." > > Let's see the honesty committee spin this one. > > > > > > > On Apr 29, 2013, at 9:16 AM, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@...> wrote: > > > > > And I don't care if you call me a racist, I myself mock at my inner > > > racist every day, laugh and mock my own mind's biases. > > > > > > Conservatives wallow in their racism, liberal strive to rise above their > > > inner racism to meet others with compassion. > > > > > > Scream loud as you want at others being racist - I'm just going to laugh > > > at your ignorant, sorry ass but when I meet you I will as always, despite > > > my contempt and disgust, rise above my judgement to meet you with love. > > > > > > > > > On Apr 29, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@...> wrote: > > > > > >> Curtis baby, > > >> > > >> Let me get this straight again. I totally understand your ignorant, > > >> self-righteous white-ass's inability to wrap this. > > >> > > >> I'm an equal opportunity racist - I have my biases, judgements on > > >> whites, Indians, Blacks, Hispanics, everyone including myself. I'm > > >> totally at peace with that, my senses constantly provide me data on > > >> every person - my mind filters through data, goes through set of my > > >> conditioning, my experiences and I have some readily available data at > > >> my disposal. This happens instantaneously Curtis baby and I understand > > >> its limitations. > > >> > > >> Here's the kicker baby - here's where a person such as you would have > > >> trouble understanding, a person who I have utter contempt and disgust > > >> for, a person who shows an utter disregard for honesty and integrity, a > > >> person whose focus is his self-interest rather than serving the cause of > > >> truth, a person who is a victim of his entertainer, narcissistic > > >> self-interest, a person who cares for adoration rather than care for the > > >> truth. > > >> > > >> It is that I can override my mind's biases, my conditioning, my likes > > >> and dislikes, my fears, insecurities, anxieties if any, to be terribly > > >> open, vulnerable, accepting and loving to anyone I meet. And your sorry > > >> self-righteous white ass can never match it, not for this life time > > >> anyway. > > >> > > >> But an ignorant, idiot like you doesn't understand all the complexities, > > >> the sense of guilt, burden it creates, it's easy to cloak it with > > >> self-righteousness isn't it? Surprisingly Steve says he understands it - > > >> so you are a bigger idiot than I thought. > > >> > > >> Get it Curtis baby? > > >> > > >> > > >> On Apr 29, 2013, at 6:28 AM, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@...> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> wrote: > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula > > >>> > <chivukula.ravi@> wrote: > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Damn you are not patient are you Curtis baby? You are sounding as > > >>> > > desperate > > >>> > > and demanding attention as the bumbling retard Steve. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Let me get this right - I, Curtis will go any lengths to defend > > >>> > > artistic > > >>> > > expressions of gang rape, objectification and/or derogatory > > >>> > > references to > > >>> > > women but will spin Ravi as a racist because he points to a culture > > >>> > > of > > >>> > > dead-beat dads burdening women with kids and leaving them at the > > >>> > > mercy of > > >>> > > federal assistance? > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Curtis baby - I'm at peace with my mind's judgement biases i.e my > > >>> > > inner > > >>> > > racism, it doesn't prevent me from calling it as I see it nor > > >>> > > meeting > > >>> > > people I judge with empathy. I don't cloak my burdens and guilt into > > >>> > > self-righteousness while promoting an ol' boy, White Mid-Western > > >>> > > clique. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > P.S This is a lot for your ignorant, burdened brain to fucking wrap > > >>> > > around > > >>> > > - so don't bother. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Ok as promised, a sample response with due respect to your > > >>> > > disabilities - > > >>> > > which earlier were only limited to your honesty and integrity - now > > >>> > > seemingly extending to the intellectual realm as well. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > ----------- > > >>> > > Hi Ravi - yes I re-read Raunchy's post again - here are the most > > >>> > > objectionable part of the lyrics based upon your agreement of her > > >>> > > post. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > "I'll tell you where I found her > > >>> > > Lying down in the pines > > >>> > > A gang of boys around her > > >>> > > Some was higgin it > > >>> > > Some was kissin it > > >>> > > Some was huggin it > > >>> > > Some was kneeling down > > >>> > > There more rascal hangin round > > >>> > > Try to tear my kingdom down" > > >>> > > > > >>> > > I can see how this evokes strong images of gang-rape, the > > >>> > > objectification > > >>> > > and derogatory references to women - in the form of gang of boys, > > >>> > > the usage > > >>> > > of "it" to refer to his wife and "my kingdom" that shows his sense > > >>> > > of > > >>> > > portraying his wife's sexual organs as his private property. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > I think I got defensive because of my attachment to my role as an > > >>> > > entertainer. I can now see that you are not questioning my right and > > >>> > > creative expression as an artist and an entertainer. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > The fact that my GF gave a positive interpretation perhaps shows the > > >>> > > forgiveness, the acceptance of women. And perhaps, sensing my > > >>> > > initial > > >>> > > unease - she was trying to make me feel better. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > I can appreciate your perspective of the lyrics as gang-rape and as > > >>> > > being > > >>> > > objectifying and degrading to women. I also know get a sense that > > >>> > > you are > > >>> > > portraying the lyrics as being alien to modern culture and not > > >>> > > condemning > > >>> > > my artistic expression. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Sorry I got off an tangent by calling you racist and I suppose you > > >>> > > are > > >>> > > entitled your opinions and judgement and call it as you see fit. We > > >>> > > both > > >>> > > here agree that artists have a freedom to be provocative. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Thank you - it was good a exchange and helps me understand where > > >>> > > you were > > >>> > > coming from. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > Gee, Curtis, how'd you get to be so spin free? My washer's spin cycle > > >>> > had been getting an inferiority complex. Anyway, I'm glad Ravi's > > >>> > clear thinking has rubbed off on you. Sorry I flew off the handle > > >>> > projecting my biases against gang rape and misogyny onto the lyrics > > >>> > and misled Ravi into agreeing with me.> > > >>> > > >>> My issue with you was you suggestion that my take on the meaning of the > > >>> song was somehow "self-serving" as if defending gang rape was my goal. > > >>> It was right out of the raunchy shitty trick playbook so it was not > > >>> unexpected, but I objected to it. > > >>> > > >>> You were spinning my interpretation of the meaning of the song as a > > >>> statement about me as a person. Typical. > > >>> > > >>> < Apparently, he has difficulty thinking for himself.> > > >>> > > >>> Agreed. He is recycling phrases and words form a small group here for > > >>> their approval and it has worked. > > >>> > > >>> But hey it reminds me of how black people are (now that we are talking > > >>> straight with each other I don't have to water this down for the > > >>> liberals) You know how black men force their women to have more babies > > >>> so they can get food stamps which they somehow can use in prison? Well, > > >>> I think it is about time we talked straight about how black people > > >>> really are, don't you Raunchy? > > >>> > > >>> (You are gunna find your future umbridge machine falling on some pretty > > >>> deaf ears after this. > > >>> > > >>> > So no Ann, it is not hypocritical to make fun of religious ideas and > > >>> > still be against racist remarks. They are not the same. > > >>> > > > >>> > Ahhh, but the agenda behind, the motivation, the hatred, the > > >>> > ignorance and the anger can be. Absolutely. And THAT is what I'm > > >>> > talkin' about. > > >>> > > >>> Geez, if only I had supported my allegations with a line by line > > >>> analysis of the lyrics as you required of Ravi, maybe he wouldn't have > > >>> gotten the brunt of your frustrations with me and your artistic > > >>> sensibilities would have remained unscathed. My bad. So, now that > > >>> everyone is friends again, it's all water under the bridge...isn't it? > > > >>> > > >>> You weren't interested in the song and how the lyrics support different > > >>> interpretations. It was a tool for what you DO here. > > >>> And with your interest in poetry and words I found it disappointing. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 3:44 PM, curtisdeltablues < > > >>> > > curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > ** > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > That's what I thought, you have not text support for you idiotic > > >>> > > > accusations about the song. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > More tourettes trolling. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > Hey let's get Judy to defend your position on black people's food > > >>> > > > stamp > > >>> > > > lov'n, baby making ways based on your ideas about creative > > >>> > > > evocative > > >>> > > > expressions. I'd like to know how it magically takes the racist > > >>> > > > views RIGHT > > >>> > > > off! > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > Are you up for explaining Ravi's point Judy? He has already > > >>> > > > deferred to > > >>> > > > Raunchy on the song so maybe you can be his spokesperson for this: > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > Ravi being his adorable self, the l'll scamp! > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > < I will say that most of the culture is very crude, > > >>> > > > > misogynistic. Who doesn't love their mom's - I am sorry - but > > >>> > > > > is that > > >>> > > > > enough and then you let your partner fend for herself, forcing > > >>> > > > > her to > > >>> > > > have > > >>> > > > > multiple children for maximum food stamps while your deadbeat > > >>> > > > > ass > > >>> > > > > languishes in jail. It's terribly hard to be a black woman.> > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > I think it could use some of that much touted special brand of > > >>> > > > honesty you > > >>> > > > talk so much about. > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula > > >>> > > > <chivukula.ravi@> > > >>> >
