Yes, Vaj and I used to hit the Pop-a-Top in Ottumwa. --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On 9/13/05 7:33 AM, "TurquoiseB" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Vaj, I like you, but I have to wonder whether you > have > > actually ever *been* to a strip club. > > Yes! > > > > > Yes, it's sad that our society is so sexually > biased > > that one of the only options women who don't want > to > > work for low pay have open to them is stripping. > But > > the *dynamic* in a strip club is exaclty the > *opposite* > > of what you describe. *Any* "seer" with half an > ounce > > of discrimination would be able to discern that > immediately. > > I guess that would depend what the seer "saw". > > > > > The people being controlled and dominated and > subjugated > > are the *men* around the stage. And *every* woman > who > > works at one of these clubs knows it. Some > actually get > > off on the level of control they have over the > customers, > > playing with it. > > Like I believe I conveyed, I think it depends on the > situation in regards to > specifics. Could there be a club which actually used > the work-situation to > enpower themselves? Yes, of course it could. Could > it be used in a *sacred* > sense--yes absolutely it could, has been and is to > this day. > > Yet in our rape culture that is not always the case. > I am not an expert in > the demographics of strip clubs so I can't claim > much in numbers. > > > > > Sit and *talk* with some of these women sometime. > It > > might open your eyes to the possibility that this > scene > > is not nearly as black-and-white as you think it > is. > > I don't see it as black and white. I do see patterns > though in some of these > situations--and they are samsaric patterns. I am > deliberately not saying > which ones as I believe people should come to their > own conclusions. > > I have to also tell you, I have seen this used in a > sacred manor--but it was > not in strip clubs. ;-) ...after all, I am a > Nath...I was initiated, as have > been innumerable Naths since the Treta, by a > woman/Goddess and let's just > say "plainly dressed";-) A meeting of Naths in > sacred space is almost always > (depending on circumstances) "clothing optional". > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make > Yahoo! your home page > http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
