--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@...> wrote: (snip) > Yep, a functioning brain is the seat of consciousness but > groups like the TMO will attempt to weaken that idea for > their own agenda.
Salyavin, why don't you see if you can make your case without leaving a trail of slain straw men? Just to reiterate: Chalmers and Nagel and a number of other non-TM, nonmystical, nonreligious philosophers and scientists of excellent repute take the view that consciousness is not adequately explained by biology (and without invoking quantum mechanics or the paranormal, either). (snip) > Because I don't believe the mystic mythos it just seems > staggeringly obvious to me that it's all in the brain and > totally dependent on it. What if you didn't have the "mystic mythos" to beat up on, would it be any less staggeringly obvious to you? Could you then take a good look at the "hard problem" and apply reductive principles to make the most basic fact of human experience--what it is like to be oneself--go away?
