No, back it up and watch it from the beginning.  Context is everything.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@...> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote:
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> > I clicked on the video at a random point and there was Hagelin saying 
> > 
> > "In the yoga sutras of Patangali, which is the classic text of yoga, there 
> > are techniques to transcend -- transcending meditations for example -- 
> > which just take the mind like a rock to sink deeply into the transcendental 
> > source of thought."
> > 
> > To which I say, "Obviously John doesn't have a definition of 'mind' that 
> > separates it from 'consciousness,' nor does he see that consciousness is 
> > not 'awareness.'"
> > 
> > John just spews a 1st lecture and condescends about the other panel members 
> > being knowers of reality.  
> > 
> > BAH!
> > 
> > And note that he doesn't take questions.  Does he ever take questions?  I 
> > bet he does but only from very specific groups -- not from the rough shod 
> > Fairfielders who have given up TM, for instance.
> > 
> > And double BAH on John for his vile morality and sexual predator lifestyle 
> > -- no wonder he doesn't want questions, cuz someone who's life he's ruined 
> > might just be rude enough to confront him about how  valuable his 
> > philosophical concepts and his meditation-skill-set and the results of his 
> > use of them are if they have not transformed him from evil toad to saint.
> > 
> > Yeah, I hate the guy and he's not done a thing to me personally...
> 
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> > He is an incarnation of all the TMO hyprocrisy, all the "philosophy lite 
> > fuzzy blubbery talky-ness, and all the Raja superiority.
> > 
> > I would not advise him to get stuck in an elevator with me.  
> > 
> > There would be blood, no debate, and it wouldn't take place in the astral.
> > 
> > Edg
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <rick@> wrote:
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> > >  <http://batgap.com/sand-panel-discussion/> 175. Panel Discussion â€" 
> > > John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick 
> > > Archer
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> > > PANEL: The Three Simultaneously True Levels of Nondual Reality; Don't 
> > > Mistake Understanding for Realization, Don't Mistake Realization for 
> > > Liberation. John Hagelin, Ph.D., is a world-renowned quantum physicist, 
> > > educator, public policy expert, and leading proponent of peace. Dr. 
> > > Hagelin received his A.B. summa cum laude from Dartmouth College and his 
> > > M.A. and Ph.D. from Harvard University, […]
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