Currents of conditional love, ocean of uncondish, sink or swim little sea creatures of FFL, Love catches us all either way, neh?
________________________________ From: obbajeeba <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 7, 2013 9:31 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees" --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <feste37@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Dear Michael, > > No. > > My inquiry in jyotish is because I want to understand why my situations > > have a similar appeal in happenings. > > Yes, I am guilty of falling for the fear and guilt part of beliefs, but I > > can't blame myself, because that is how I was brought up as in society. I > > have grown a lot in life and let go of many stupid parameters. Ha, even if > > the parameters are made by society, I tend to reason past them sometimes > > based on careful logic of a situation,(from my sometimes illogical > > thinking) which sometimes can make people wonder what the hell am I > > thinking or doing. But deep down and not too far from the surface, I wish > > to break these stupid habits, Michael! I do enjoy watching the planetary > > movements! hahah > > Why? Because I want to enjoy love of man. That is why, Mike. I wish to love > > unconditionally, and learn how to fucking do it. > > If I were you, I would give up on the idea of unconditional love. The love > between men and women such as you describe is always conditional. It has to > be like that, and there is nothing wrong with it. Love is always a bargain, a > deal. Ninety percent of the bargain may be unstated in words but nonetheless > understood and accepted by both people. Love then becomes a delicate dance > conducted around that bargain. Unconditional love? That's just a fantasy. > Just live up to your side of the bargain and that will be enough. > > Uncle Fester, You give good advice. Although I have experienced the unconditional love. The condition is of course present, it is up to one to not let that condition interfere with love. Hence, unconditional love as defined by this. Seeing a spouse/life partner reach the end stages of life, letting go of all that one used to have as a condition, that is unconditional. Experienced this myself. True, love is a bargain, and sometimes one has to let the bananas go for a lot less or even free if they are spoiling, just to keep the customer coming back another time, knowing you have the fruit available. :) > > > Yes, I love myself. Human life has a hormone explosion and I am still in the > middle of it! Damn it! :) When the time comes my hormones go to sleep, then I > will feel content for that time too. > > It is all about sex. ??? It is unlimited and incredible, just looking for > > the unlimited. hahahaha > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@> wrote: > > > > > > Do you really believe that human life, that is at its basis unlimited and > > > incredible can and should be reduced to all the do's and don'ts and > > > parameters and admonitions that jyotish imposes??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: John <jr_esq@> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Friday, June 7, 2013 3:56 PM > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees" > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > Obbajeeba, > > > > > > Kujadosha means a Mars condition or blemish. The term applies to those > > > people who have Mars placed in the 1,2,4,7,8, and 12th house of the natal > > > chart. There are exceptions to this condition which can vary depending > > > on the jyotish tradition you follow. You should read James Braha's book > > > for a detailed discussion of this subject. Or, email me and I can give > > > you a link where you can find it. > > > > > > This means that 50 percent of all people have this condition. So, it is > > > practical and advisable to marry someone who has the same condition. > > > Otherwise, the success for maintaining a marriage relationship will be > > > drastically reduced. > > > > > > There are also other factors to be considered for marriage compatibility. > > > However, IMO the more criteria one uses for compatibility the lesser the > > > chances of finding anyone for marriage. > > > So, the element of love is still the most important factor for getting > > > married. > > > > > > JR > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Ravi, When you can comment again once the meany time passes for post > > > > count rules: > > > > So, Kuja dosha does not really get canceled? > > > > I have been told many times one with kuja dosha should find someone > > > > with kuja dosha. But when I find with Kuja dosha, the significations > > > > for that house make it rather distancing. So cancellation means, "Well > > > > you both have kuja dosha and well they actually do not cancel, but you > > > > two will live far away from each other and there, cancellation." Right? > > > > LOL > > > > Otherwise kuja dosha person becomes victim to his/her mate. Or their > > > > mate dies early anyways? > > > > The more I read on the subject, and the more I see from real life > > > > experiences, Kuja is as Kuja does. > > > > Anyone else is more than welcome to step into this spiraling out of > > > > control doomsday fate, I surely would appreciate a better understanding > > > > of this kuja dosha thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > LOL..thanks dear Ann, give me a couple of days. I usually memorize the > > > > > chart in my head and contemplate on it in my free time to make sure I > > > > > don't > > > > > miss anything. I am slow since I don't do this often. Of course I can > > > > > start > > > > > talking about it as I see it but then it won't make much sense to you > > > > > if I > > > > > talk about houses and planets but I will just summarize and do the > > > > > detailed > > > > > one for the heck of it so you could see my thought process. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Ann <awoelflebater@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula > > > > > > <chivukula.ravi@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Ann <awoelflebater@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula > > > > > > > > <chivukula.ravi@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well dear Ann - astrologers can get pretty carried away and > > > > > > > > > come up > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > magical theories. In essence, from a purely theoretical > > > > > > > > > perspective > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > can, I can - devoid of all mystical, magical crap, karma, > > > > > > reincarnation > > > > > > > > > bullshit - come up with a reasonable, logical, analytical > > > > > > astrological > > > > > > > > > analysis that provides insights into one's strengths, > > > > > > > > > weaknesses, > > > > > > > > > personality. I don't know how it works - but it does and of > > > > > > > > > course > > > > > > it's > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > an exact Science, it's more of an intuitive, analysis since > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > signs, > > > > > > > > > planets have various significations and an intelligent > > > > > > > > > astrologer > > > > > > has to > > > > > > > > > put everything in the right perspective. Since you are > > > > > > > > > skeptical I > > > > > > can do > > > > > > > > > one for you if you would like and you can measure the success > > > > > > > > > of the > > > > > > > > > reading. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ravi, I would love you to do whatever you want to with me. > > > > > > > > What > > > > > > next? > > > > > > > > Need birth dates etc? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes dear Ann - time of birth and place is what's needed. If you > > > > > > > don't > > > > > > want > > > > > > > to post it here let me know. > > > > > > > > > > > > No, it's all very good, I would love you to read me. > > > > > > Date of birth November 5, 1956. Place: Dunkirk, New York. Time 8:25 > > > > > > am > > > > > > (that is as close in time as I know.) Anything else? My life and > > > > > > destiny > > > > > > are in your hands. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
