On 06/13/2013 07:55 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>
>>> Most people can't program a VCR - get real. You're the
>>> only guy on the list that knows how to upload a flat
>>> file to another server and can write queries.
>>>
> Bhairitu:
>> I doubt that. What about Jim and Ravi?
>>
> Maybe so, but you're the only informant that uploads
> flat files, unless you want to count those files
> uploaded long ago by the other Barry - the 'ramalila'
> files. Apparently I'm the only geek with a web site.
>
> Alex apparently knows all about ftp and according to
> what I've read, Lawson got a two-year certificate in
> programming. A few years ago I took two Oracle courses
> just for fun so I could learn SQL. Go figure.

SQL is actually pretty simple.  It had to be for business to have a lot 
of programmers using it.  I never took any programming classes and 
learned out of books.  However I did hang out with a lot of professional 
programmers when I started out and because I already had experience 
teaching things I wound up teaching 6502 assembler for a computer club.  
I had a lot of professional programmers who took that class.  And 
actually few of those people majored in computer science in college and 
learned from books themselves or a few workshops.

Most colleges we bad at teaching computer science anyway.  I was an 
advisor to one college's computer department because  they needed help 
finding what to teach to get their graduate's jobs.  Nobody was hiring 
pascal programmers.  We got them to teach C and C++ instead.

By the late 1990s colleges started teaching comp sci better.  You have 
to have a knack for programming. It is like music.  All the music theory 
in the world won't make you a musician.  My niece has a Master's degree 
in comp sci but no knack for programming.  I know because I tutored her 
for her Bachelor's degree.  She only had one computer job and was so 
badgered by the boss she never took another one again and spent years 
trying to earn a living as a dog groomer. Now she is getting a doctorate 
in teaching kids with learning disabilities which is what she currently 
does for a living.

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