I can't ignore the fact that, just looking at results, Marshy lived a very non-dharmic life which hurt a lot of people.
Besides which he was a kayastha and therefore it was a-dharmic for him to follow the lifestyle of a bhramin, which technically he didn't do as he was living the lifestyle of a false priest, a huckster, and not trying to be a real bhramin, but it has been said that Guru Dev told him he was a business man, and not a spiritual teacher - wait a mintue!!! He was in his dharma!!! He was a hell of a businessman! A liar, a con artist but he made it into a hell of a lucrative business, so I stand corrected, he was in his dharma. Better to be a liar and huckster in one's own dharma than try to live the dharma of an honest man. ________________________________ From: Mike Dixon <mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: someone who understands M.E. Michael, you have the right idea. Leading a good wholesome life and learning from your mistakes and challenges. Being a better person when you leave than when you came. Growing more aware and accomplished. While you have a deep resentment for TM or anything to do with M, I see it(TM) as *greasing the skids*. You still have to pull a weight through life but TM can make it a lot easier. In the early days of the TM movement M always said it wasn't necessary to change anything about your life, just add TM. Didn't need to adopt a new religion etc. TM would make you better at whatever you were or did. It greases the skids of evolution. To me, religion hopping , living other cultures, whatever, is avoiding one's dharma. If you don't learn what you were supposed to learn, you might have to go through the same thing again. From: Michael Jackson <mjackso...@yahoo.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: someone who understands M.E. real dharma is supposed to be that action which is most evolutionary in any given moment, which for me is eating venison (I did for lunch), visiting with my daughter tomorrow and watching Warehouse 13 with her and her mother on Sunday might, oh and also my dharma is also not doing TM ever again in this life or any other - in fact, I am so powerful in my dharma that my not doing TMSP counteracts the effect of all the people sleeping in the Golden Domes of Pure Knowledge. From: turquoiseb <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 2:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: someone who understands M.E. Just as a question, what exactly is it that makes either Maharishi or the Bhagavad-Gita an "authority," one whose opinion should be valued or followed as if it were "truth?" While we're at it, since both of you are talking about "dharma" as if it were a Done Deal, and you understand what it is, what is it? Define "dharma" for us. If you can't, please tell us who or what you believe IS capable of defining "dharma," and telling someone whether their actions are either in accord with it or not in accord with it. And follow up by telling us why you believe this "who" or "what" should be regarded as an "authority." Thanks in advance... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@...> wrote: > > Mike I think Maharishi says better one's own dharma > than the dharma of another though higher. The dharma > of another brings danger. > ________________________________ > From: Mike Dixon <mdixon.6569@...> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 12:45 PM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: someone who understands M.E. > > Be true to your dharma. You don't have to become a > Hindu, Buddhist or anything you weren't born as to > enjoy it. Doesn't M say in the Gita, better to > observe your own dharma poorly, than someone > elses, well? > > From: Buck <dhamiltony2k5@...> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 6:17 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: someone who understands M.E. > >  > Anywhere, anytime, anybody who is looking for this knowledge must get it, because the Absolute is not for a single race, colour, creed or nation. --Swami Shantanand Saraswati > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scientific research shows that even small groups of people meditating (as little as the square root of one percent of the population) can quietly transform trends in society from conflict and enmity to peace and cooperation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the Meissner Effect > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Origins of the ME > > > > > and the TM western millenarian movement: > > > > > > > > > > "There is a much better way of helping others. It is not to have the desire as such but to meditate so purely that there is such a wealth of goodness in the individual that anyone who is in need can come and get it naturally. In this way it will be abundantly available to everyone, very much like the sun which does not direct its light to any single place, but anyone > who wants to have help or light from the sun can take it. So the better way is to have finer energy or more Sattva in oneself; this can be used by anybody who needs it." > > > > > > > > > > --Swami Shantanand Saraswati > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote > > > > Source: > > > > book in LB Shriver's reading library, > > > > > > > > Good Company > > > > An Anthology of > > > > sayings, stories, and > > > > answers to questions of > > > > His Holiness Shantanand Saraswati > > > > [Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math] > > > > The Luminary who followed Guru Dev Swami Brahmananda Saraswati > > > > as Shankaracharya. > > > > > > > > Do See FFL post #345760 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/345760 > > > > to get the flow of the ME in modern spiritual regeneration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon <mdixon.6569@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess you could also call it(M.E.) the Abraham effect. Read the story of Sodom and Glocca Morra. Abraham asks God how many righteous souls it would take for him not to destroy the cities of the plains. He bargains with God from about fifty down to about ten. Once the number of righteous drops below a certain point, God will not guarantee their safety from His wrath. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the Millenarian Effect > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, it is TM Millenarianism: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yup, it's revolutionary and we're TM revolutionaries doing it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, belief in a coming ideal society and especially one created by revolutionary action. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A MME, Meissner Millenarian Effect. ***see Fairfieldlife message 343576, > > heaven on earth: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/343576 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scientific research > > shows that even small groups of people  meditating (as little as the > > square root of one percent of the population) can quietly transform trends > > in society from conflict and enmity > to peace and cooperation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the Meissner > > Effect > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yep, The modern spiritual > > regeneration movement started as a ME with Guru Dev, Swami Brahmananda > > Saraswati held that huge group puja in India that brought an end to World > > War II. It was a cover story on Life magazine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, and we are the soldiers of the ME > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scientific Spiritual Regeneration > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bringing revolution to all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brothers and Sisters, "Give thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to the Unified Field for It is good; for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's steadfast love endures for ever. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let all of humanity say: 'It's steadfast > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > love endures for ever'" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Buck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That land of Bliss and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glory exists above us, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > under us, around us, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > within us, without us, if > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we open our eyes to see, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Unified Field. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is true, > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Transcendental Movement > > > > > > > Is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A Revolutionary Millenarianism > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Affect a Heaven on Earth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Knowledge is unlimited and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > available at all times. It manifests itself according to the need of the time. It is only available when the need arises. The stream of love and truth is one, but man catches it in two different ways, by heart or by mind. By heart he means his love, by mind he means his knowledge. But in fact the stream of > love and truth is always the same. It is always present in the world and always will be present in the world but people will only take as much as their destiny offers, or as they need. > > -Swami Shantanand Saraswati [Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math] > > >
