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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote: > > One of my good friends in Santa Fe was a psychiatrist who had, over the > course of his career, treated many individuals suffering from > Naricissistic Personality Disorder (NPD). When I met him, he had already > given up on psychiatric treatment, having been convinced over the course > of 20+ years that the condition was untreatable. But knowing of my > interest in the subject (caused by having studied with at least two NPD > spiritual teachers), he was willing to talk with me about his > experiences back when he *was* treating NPD, and some of the conclusions > he had drawn from those experiences. One of these conclusions seems > relevant to recent events on FFL, so I'll rap about it a little. > > The symptom he spoke of as the "#1 tip-off" that he was dealing with > someone with NPD was what he called "blame displacement." > > To explain a bit, NPD sufferers live in an illusory/delusory world > inside their own heads; they rarely, if ever, interact with reality as > it is seen by other people. Subjectivity "rules" for the NPD individual, > and they tend to sincerely believe that "how they see the world" > *equates* to "how the world is." > > So it is often a SHOCK to them when someone calls them on their own > antisocial or unethical behavior. According to my friend the shrink, > their *first* impulse at that point is to DENY it. They cannot accept > that the view of them being proposed by this other person could be > correct, because it contradicts their own internal, subjective view of > themselves. > > Their *second* impulse is to attempt to SHIFT THE BLAME for these > contradictory views of themselves. They call the person criticizing them > or their behavior "liars," and furthermore (and this is the tip-off) > claim that the critic *does not even believe what they are saying*, and > that they are *consciously* lying about them in an attempt to "get" > them. > > Now think back to recent discussions about what Robin did when Vaj > pointed out that Robin had struck his students. First he DENIED it > vociferously, lying through his teeth the whole time. But second, he > attempted to SHIFT THE BLAME, and portray Vaj as the Bad Guy In This > Scenario, claiming that *he* was lying, and claiming furthermore than > Vaj even "knew" that he was lying. Classic NPD behavior. > > Next, think about Judy Stein, and her well-established patterns on this > forum. When faced with a critic -- someone who calls her on her behavior > in a way that contradicts her internal view of who she is and what she's > doing -- her first impulse is to DENY the behavior. But her second is > *almost always* to attempt to SHIFT THE BLAME and claim that the critic > is not only lying, but *consciously* lying, and doesn't "really" believe > the thing he or she is saying about her. Again, classic NPD behavior. > > We really DO believe the things we say about you, Judy. Your inability > to comprehend or accept this is based on your own disability -- > Narcissistic Peronsality Disorder -- not on some "superior" insight or > intuition or "seeing." You cannot accept that we *really* see you this > way because it so strongly contradicts your view of yourself. This is > called Narcissism. > > *Six and a half years* after you made your "Mel Gibson, Christian bigot" > post, you *still* cannot bring yourself to say, "OK, I did it. I > commented on a film I'd never seen." You *still* have to equivocate, and > pretend not only that it never happened, but that Barry is "lying" about > it happening. > > It happened. The proof is here > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/126122 > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/126122> ), and > it's incontrovertible. How do you explain your inability to admit it > *except* as an indicator of Narcissistic Personality Disorder? We'll > wait... >