http://youtu.be/EI4mutjhwJI

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> One of my good friends in Santa Fe was a psychiatrist who had, over the
> course of his career, treated many individuals suffering from
> Naricissistic Personality Disorder (NPD). When I met him, he had already
> given up on psychiatric treatment, having been convinced over the course
> of 20+ years that the condition was untreatable. But knowing of my
> interest in the subject (caused by having studied with at least two NPD
> spiritual teachers), he was willing to talk with me about his
> experiences back when he *was* treating NPD, and some of the conclusions
> he had drawn from those experiences. One of these conclusions seems
> relevant to recent events on FFL, so I'll rap about it a little.
> 
> The symptom he spoke of as the "#1 tip-off" that he was dealing with
> someone with NPD was what he called "blame displacement."
> 
> To explain a bit, NPD sufferers live in an illusory/delusory world
> inside their own heads; they rarely, if ever, interact with reality as
> it is seen by other people. Subjectivity "rules" for the NPD individual,
> and they tend to sincerely believe that "how they see the world"
> *equates* to "how the world is."
> 
> So it is often a SHOCK to them when someone calls them on their own
> antisocial or unethical behavior. According to my friend the shrink,
> their *first* impulse at that point is to DENY it. They cannot accept
> that the view of them being proposed by this other person could be
> correct, because it contradicts their own internal, subjective view of
> themselves.
> 
> Their *second* impulse is to attempt to SHIFT THE BLAME for these
> contradictory views of themselves. They call the person criticizing them
> or their behavior "liars," and furthermore (and this is the tip-off)
> claim that the critic *does not even believe what they are saying*, and
> that they are *consciously* lying about them in an attempt to "get"
> them.
> 
> Now think back to recent discussions about what Robin did when Vaj
> pointed out that Robin had struck his students. First he DENIED it
> vociferously, lying through his teeth the whole time. But second, he
> attempted to SHIFT THE BLAME, and portray Vaj as the Bad Guy In This
> Scenario, claiming that *he* was lying, and claiming furthermore than
> Vaj even "knew" that he was lying. Classic NPD behavior.
> 
> Next, think about Judy Stein, and her well-established patterns on this
> forum. When faced with a critic -- someone who calls her on her behavior
> in a way that contradicts her internal view of who she is and what she's
> doing -- her first impulse is to DENY the behavior. But her second is
> *almost always* to attempt to SHIFT THE BLAME and claim that the critic
> is not only lying, but *consciously* lying, and doesn't "really" believe
> the thing he or she is saying about her. Again, classic NPD behavior.
> 
> We really DO believe the things we say about you, Judy. Your inability
> to comprehend or accept this is based on your own disability --
> Narcissistic Peronsality Disorder -- not on some "superior" insight or
> intuition or "seeing." You cannot accept that we *really* see you this
> way because it so strongly contradicts your view of yourself. This is
> called Narcissism.
> 
> *Six and a half years* after you made your "Mel Gibson, Christian bigot"
> post, you *still* cannot bring yourself to say, "OK, I did it. I
> commented on a film I'd never seen." You *still* have to equivocate, and
> pretend not only that it never happened, but that Barry is "lying" about
> it happening.
> 
> It happened. The proof is here 
> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/126122
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/126122>  ), and
> it's incontrovertible. How do you explain your inability to admit it
> *except* as an indicator of Narcissistic Personality Disorder? We'll
> wait...
>


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