--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Buddhists, like neo- and pseudo-Hindus, often get tangled up in issues
> or questions that are *all in their heads* -- questions without answers,
> essentially ways to waste time and waste one's life pondering things
> they'll never know the answers to. Some of these silly
> ponderings/discussions/arguments have to do with "What is the worst of
> the afflictive emotions or traits?" I've always thought that even
> conceiving of arguing about such a thing is too much like Catholics
> arguing about "What is the deadliest of the mortal sins?" for me to be
> interested in, so I've never really indulged in such discussions. But
> just for fun, tonight I will.
> 
> Some of these stuck-in-their-heads Buddhists think that anger and hatred
> are the most afflictive of the afflictive emotions/traits. Others --
> especially the ones who are trying to be or pretending to be celibate --
> actually think that *romantic love* is the lowest-vibe, because it can
> lure people "off the path." But both of these groups seem to agree that
> anyone who consistently displays the emotion or trait they deem "worst"
> is low-vibe, "not very evolved."
> 
> My view is much more pragmatic, and simple. If there is an emotion,
> action, or trait that indicates "not very evolved" to me, it's
> reactivity itself.
> 
> If someone -- anyone -- can push your buttons and get you to react to
> them, over something -- anything -- then they OWN your ass, and you
> aren't *nearly* as "spiritual" or "evolved" as you think you are.
> 
> It really doesn't *matter* in my opinion what the "trigger" for the
> reactivity is. It could be someone calling you a name, or saying
> something about you that you feel is not true, or calling into question
> the "image" you've labored long and hard to project. None of this shit
> matters a damn, so if you *believe* that it matters, enough to *react*
> to the provocation and feel that you have to "defend yourself" or lash
> out at the person who did this, IMO you're still way down there on the
> evolutionary scale with the slugs and the cockroaches.
> 
> Only an ego -- and a strongly entrenched and established one -- can
> react that way, especially consistently. So if you think of "evolved" as
> being synonymous with having less ego, then reactivity of this type
> should be considered synonymous with being "unevolved."
> 
> That's my theory, anyway. Tonight. At 9:00 p.m., as I'm about to go out
> on the town in Paris. I may have a different theory later on. But if you
> find *that* offensive and unevolved, I hope you'll forgive me if I don't
> react. :-)

Teacher, teacher, my hand is up, pick me. What can you say about the button 
pushers of the world? What motivates them? What overriding character trait must 
a button pusher possess in order to want to push people's buttons? Does a 
button pusher ever admit to themselves that perhaps what they call button 
pushing is merely an unsavoury character trait possessed by the button pusher 
that others take a disliking to? Is this 'reaction' ever valid or warranted by 
the pushees? And finally teacher, what does is say about a person who sits by 
and allows others to throw shit around the room and not get up and at least 
leave or, better still, confront the shit thrower?
>


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