Yeah. There is no agenda. There is no allegiance. There is not a reason to apologize. Let the hair on your chest grow! I am by no means in "Ravi's group." LMAO Ravi is fun to play with and he really pays attention to how words are used, probably more so because English is a second language to him, I believe, and he is sensitive to bullshit buzz words. Like Kali's Pimp. He too, takes on ignorance with her dress on! (his/her same thing.) So come back on here, instead of pretending you were beat up or were not respected. It took me a long time to get anyone's response around here, and I feel good that I hung in here. I do take a break once in a while, but I thoroughly enjoy reading everyone's posts. So why would that be considered a gang bang hang up routine? Or a wham bam thank you ma'am?
I feel so used! I really dislike the guy making me a one night stand! That is up to the girls, dude. ;) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@...> wrote: > > Rory, > > It's clear that I have upset you and you have taken my challenge as an > attack on your very being, your integrity and your spiritual experiences. I > apologize for causing you pain but I will make no apologies for challenging > your belief system - I have done my best to clarify that I was mocking your > belief system, your narrative and not you as a person, your spiritual > experiences. You are not the first person and you won't be the last. I > certainly don't think you are enlightened, that's a hilarious notion for > me. But I don't think you are in a space to see that difference since you > seem so emotionally, psychologically invested in your belief system. This > becomes clear in several statements you have made. > > Thank you for considering me as your friend, for the respect and love you > had. But I question the basis of such a friendship now - I never cared for > anyone's support back in 2010/11 - I could handle Barry and others just > fine on my own, in fact I was having a blast. If someone calls me crazy it > only titillates me, I enjoy it, I feed off of it, I wear it as a badge of > honor. > > No - I didn't go on a tirade against you and no - my reason for mocking > your belief system is not because you won't support me in attacking Barry. > This is hilarious Rory - I don't play like that. There are Ravi's cronies - > I don't know how you got that into your head. Perhaps Obba's posts have > offended you - we are good friends and we are playful and silly, mostly > entertaining each other. I like her crazy, witty, creative posts and so I > intentionally poke her so I can get her into posting a crazy, playful, > creative post and then enjoying the hilarity of it. > > But I would detest if anyone including Obba supported me because of such > superficial agenda. There's no *agenda* here - you hear me Rory - no > ganging up on Barry - that's a fiction, there's no Ravi's group here - you > are fantasizing - you have made this process worse by highly ludicrous > statements like this. If tomorrow Obba or any others I like come up with > something I don't like I will directly say so, I will challenge them. My > allegiance is to the truth not some fantasy rapport, love, light, laughter, > superficial, inauthentic friendship. > > I don't appreciate bullshit like this Rory regardless of the fact that you > are hurt. You apparently are an extremely fragile person - I will leave you > to your fate but remember this is an online discussion list, it is a place > of battle hardened veterans as Jason once remarked. I am free to challenge > anyone with what you refer to as *my patented tirades*. So I don't really > understand what you mean by - *leave me out of it*. As long as you > participate here you will referred to, you may say - hey Ravi I'm > unsubscribing - don't mock me anymore and then I may choose to honor your > request. Please be clear here. > > > > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 11:05 PM, RoryGoff <rorygoff@...> wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > Thanks, Jim, I appreciate the offering! > > > > Ravi, I did consider you a friend; as you may recall I was one of the very > > few here who stood up for you and defended you, when most here were abusing > > you and calling you crazy, etc. I have always respected you and wished you > > well. I have no real beliefs that I hold to as Gospel -- as if you have any > > clarity at all you can see -- so for you to fly at me with your patented > > tirades, is I suspect mainly because I won't join you in attacking Barry. I > > think you and your cronies do a fine job of attacking him all by > > yourselves; you seem to enjoy it, and certainly don't need my help. I have > > found in my own life that I generally reap what I sow, and sowing love and > > trying to find common ground usually works better for me than hate, > > name-calling and abuse. Usually, anyhow. But maybe that's just me. My life > > is my own work of art, and yours is yours. You are free to do with yours > > what you want, but I would appreciate it if you leave me out of it, and I > > will leave you out of mine, unless or until you are ready to give me at > > least as much respect and appreciation as I have consistently given you. > > > > And much the same goes for you, Judy -- I have always loved your overall > > clarity and appreciate much of what you do here, but your calling my > > energetic process "bullcrap" and opining that I am as "phony as a > > three-dollar bill" is -- while quite funny in a way -- simply bullcrap that > > I don't need in my life. As I suspect you don't need me in yours. > > > > Holding the two of you in my heart was essentially self-abuse (and not the > > fun kind); it actually has hurt like hell, and I hope I won't make that > > mistake in a hurry again. > > > > Best of luck to the both of you; I do love you both and wish you all the > > fulfillment that life has to offer. > > > > Just without me, for the time being. > > > > *L*L*L* > > > > R. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@> > > wrote: > > > > > > "From the little I know of Rory he seems a sweet and gentle soul. And he > > > doesn't deserve to be abused." > > > > > > Rory was abused - by whom, when, where, how? > > > > > > Dear Ann - I seriously hope you are not referring to me. I was rude and > > > harsh - on purpose, because the nature of religious delusional beliefs > > are > > > such, they are very deep rooted, people have so much emotional, > > > psychological investment in it and I cannot leave them unchallenged. I am > > > known to be abusive, but not in this case since as you say Rory is a > > sweet > > > and gentle soul. But there weren't but sweet and gentle souls around Amma > > > and many on this list as well and I had to be harsh and rude. Of course I > > > am not rude and harsh to everyone - if it's a friend I'm still going to > > > challenge gently and firmly (of course I don't call their beliefs > > > delusional but in my mind I do) and I have challenged however hard and > > > uncomfortable it is to me. Trust me I don't particularly enjoy it. In > > this > > > case Rory is not particularly a close friend and I preferred to chose the > > > rude, harsh way. > > > > > > The only person I have given a free pass is a 64 year old Jewish > > gentleman > > > named David around Amma, I met him after my mystical experiences in 2009 > > - > > > I very much got attracted to David-ji. I consider him as a father figure > > > and he was in charge of cleaning Amma's temple and I helped him and used > > to > > > obey him unconditionally, first time in my life following the orders of a > > > man in my personal life. So he may talk about Amma as Divine Mother and I > > > give it as pass though I may address it in a roundabout way. I told him I > > > attacked Amma online and he just laughed because he knows me and has seen > > > me as the mad, crazy yogi, an iconoclast who challenges people, mocks > > > people beliefs, push people's buttons. This challenge comes up even as I > > > deal with family members - my dharma, responsibility to love, support > > them > > > as a son, as a brother, relative vs my need to challenge people's > > > delusional beliefs - it's not easy, I have to assess moment to moment. > > > > > > So there I hope this explains that somehow. Even if you were to come > > > tomorrow come up with a narrative for spiritual experiences, a > > philosophy I > > > will challenge it Ann even though I like you very much, but obviously > > > gently and firmly. Same applies to any other friend of mine, I am not > > going > > > to let any religious delusional belief go unchallenged. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Ann <awoelflebater@> wrote: > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The party continues...and parties need music... > > > > > > > > > > Bringing you da freshest! > > > > > > > > > > This one is dedicated to Rory, who is truly one of my BFFs, even if I > > > > may agree to disagree with him on the protocol for handling dipsticks. > > > > > > > > > > Tuning Into Vedic Radio (3:30) > > > > > > > > > > https://app.box.com/s/2hx2rylk73cy5vi8p1ot > > > > > > > > > > copyright Temple Dog 2013 > > > > > > > > Well then, Rory is blessed with a good friend in you, Doc. From the > > little > > > > I know of Rory he seems a sweet and gentle soul. And he doesn't > > deserve to > > > > be abused. Now I'll listen to your song, and thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
