Dude, we own that DVD! Daniel Day-Lewis is the man. The first time I watched the film, I about puked. Harsh, cruel, truthful. Some people don't like the truth. A great film.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@...> wrote: > > Have you seen "Gangs of New York"? > > "Ride with the Devil" is on Netflix WI though I might have seen it since > it was a 1999 movie. > > On 08/17/2013 05:17 PM, emptybill wrote: > > Bari2 quoted the wrong movie - he should have > > quoted Ride With The Devil by Ang Lee. > > > > It was a beautiful, historically accurate and truthful > > depiction of the sheer animus that precipitated the > > Un-cival war. > > > > It shockingly began in the Kansas-Missouri border > > areas as murderous Jayhawkers and plain-clothed > > union troops from Ft. Leavenworth raided, plundered > > and murdered southern sympathizers. > > > > At the time of the showing of the movie, we were all > > wondering how the denizens of Kosovo could attack, > > burn-out and/or murder their neighbors over ideology, > > whether religious or political. > > > > Then we saw the movie and understood ... > > them is us. > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: > >> OK dude, your giving yourself away. Kids in the North were taught that > > the Civil War(nothing civil about it) was the *war to free the > > slaves* and kids in the south were taught that the *war of northern > > aggression* was fought over *state's rights*. > > > > < The state's rights involved were primarily economic and slavery was > > just a part, albeit an emotional part, for slave owners, who were a > > small but vocal minority as were abolitionists in the north. Tariffs > > were a much more compelling argument. The Feds were trying to build the > > Transcontinental Railroad on the backs of southerners who did a lot of > > trade with Europe and that railroad would not go through one southern > > state. The tariffs were going to hit southerners on their exported raw > > materials and on incoming finished goods very hard. Anyway, the southern > > states felt like they were being treated as colonies of the northern > > states. Taxes and raw materials went north and little or nothing came > > back in the way> of benefits, products or infrastructure. > > > > < You are right, Lincoln was not a popular President, at least until > > after the war. The war it's self was not popular nor was the draft he > > used to fill the ranks. Thank goodness for all those Irish immigrants. > > Hand them a rifle and send them to the front as soon as they got off the > > boat.\ > > > >> His assassination rallied the populace around his efforts to hold the > > union together and freeing the slaves made him look saintly even though > > by today's standards he would be considered a *racist*if more people > > knew about his attitude towards the slaves in general. But hey, he > > was a Republican. What do you expect?:) > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: Bhairitu noozguru@ > >> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >> Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 1:03 PM > >> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama Suspends the Law > >> You know me, I'm a movie fan and "Gangs of New York" dealt a lot with > >> what was going on during Lincoln's time and showed it in a way > > different > >> from what most Americans learned from their history books. Furthermore > >> Scorsese, in his commentary talked about the fact that Lincoln wasn't > > as > >> popular as our history books would have us to believe. > >> > >> Also the real reason for the Civil War which was over states rights > > but > >> not because of slavery but more likely having a federal government > > which > >> could enforce railroad regulations. That so there could be a > >> transcontinental railroad. Anyone who was fascinated with railroads as > > I > >> was as a kid knows that at that time different railroad companies > > would > >> have different rail gauges. In some case to just get across a state on > > a > >> railroad you would have to get off one train on one system and walk > > over > >> to another train on a different system. Obviously that was NOT going > > to > >> work for a cross country system. And this at the behest of the wealthy > >> who wanted to profit off such a system. > >> > > > > >
