turquoiseb: > To rudely follow up on my own post, but cutting to > the chase... > If you had free will, you could levitate or leap over tall buildings; you would have mind control and be able to predict the future, so you could avoid the dangers that lie ahead. Go figure.
Free will would be like being a God - able to cause change at will. Sorry Charlie, but the world doesn't work that way. We all follow the laws of cause and effect - a body in motion tends to stay in motion, etc. That is, unless you're attempting to inject a new, transcendental force into the universe. Just remember: a body at rest tends to stay at rest. LoL! > IF you believe > that Nature runs things > and you don't really > have any Free Will > with which to "decide" > what to do > > DID you ever > have a choice about > whether to meditate > or not? > > :-) > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > Very nice post. THIS is what Fairfield Life could be if so many > > weren't so committed to lowering it to their level. > > > > That said, I only have one comment, and I hope you understand > > that this is for fun, since we've discussed our differences of opinion > > on the subject of free will in the past... > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" wrote: > > > > > > So, being able to enlighten someone or teach them about it is a > > > pretty big gift, and so I do respect MMY - warts and all. > > > > IF, as you suggest, there is no free will, and we're just flowing > along > > with Nature, circling the drain of ITS intention, not ours, why would > > an ostensible teacher of enlightenment be any more special than any > > other being, or what they "teach" a "gift?" > > > > I mean, if there is no free will, and we're all just doing what Nature > > intends, then how could anything such a "teacher of enlightenment" > > do or say *affect* us in any way? According to the No Free Will > > theory, someone or something ELSE is running things. Nothing that > > *anyone* we ever meet should be able to change that Plan, or Flow, > > or whatever you choose to call it. > > > > Enlightened, schmightened. If there is No Free Will, and no one has > > the ABILITY to change what is going to happen to them (because > > Nature is "running" all of that shit), then how can any "teaching" by > > any supposed "teacher of enlightenment" be seen as having been > > instrumental in any of his/her students realizing enlightenment? > > > > Nature handles that shit, according to your theory. Not the seeker, > > and not the teacher. IF your theory is correct, and there is No Free > > Will, there is simply no possibile way to affect one's own future. It > > wouldn't matter how many "teachers of enlightenment" you met; > > Nature controls whether you're going to realize your own enlight- > > enment...not the teachers, and not you. > > > > :-) > > >
