--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Judy writes: > > I don't know what it's like to be realized; I do > > know what it's like to be ignorant, in other words. > > > > Tom T: > > no difference > > Judy writes; > You've forgotten what it's like to be in > ignorance. > > Tom T: > Actually I have not forgotten but I can no longer ignore what is > really going on. > > That is why we call it ignorance. I am not try be > cute.
I'm sure you're not, but you are incorrect; to be ignorant does *not* mean "to ignore," it means to lack knowledge--in this case, of "what is really going on." > Just stating what seems to be self evident. I don't have any quarrel with your stating what is self-evident *to you*, only that it is somehow self-evident *to me* and I'm just willfully ignoring it or denying it. > Everything feels the same except for that > surety of being. And it's that EXCEPT FOR that's the key, Tom. What you've forgotten is what it's like to be *without* that surety of being. Now that you have it, there's no way you could remember what it's like to be without it, any more than I am able to know, now, what it's like to *have* it. > Or as Vaj puts it the POV or > view. The POV has shifted and every thing is the same and nothing > is the same. Damndest thing. It *is* the damndest thing. It's as if realization isn't backwards-compatible. > I feel just as I did before except for > that surety of being. It will have you also otherwise we wouldn't > be having this exchange and you wouldn't be hanging out here. Let > it find you and see what happens. I'm right here. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
