emptybill, when I think of a contemplative, I think of someone absorbed in adoration of God. I don't think of someone thinking and ruminating about God. Plus I think sanyama includes not only darshana but also dhyana and finally samadhi. But I would bet that all traditions of any depth have similar practices.
________________________________ From: "emptyb...@yahoo.com" <emptyb...@yahoo.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 12:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace Also, the TMO description of contemplation is based upon the term's mis-identification as "thinking and rumination" which was current in the 19th-20th century ... i.e. MMY's British era education. None of that is concordant with the classical description of theoria as used by Neo-Platonists nor with the Christian schema following after Evagrius. Several scholars have also demonstrated the similarities between the Greek idea of theoria and the Indian idea of darśana (darshan), including Ian Rutherford,[12] Binod Kumar Agarwala, Gregory Grieve, and Michael A. Di Giovane. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote: emptybill, rhythm suggests vibration to me. I can see how a universal vibration would impose order. Also, I don't think sanyama in TMSP is about contemplation. I think it's a more subtle practice than that. ________________________________ From: "emptybill@..." <emptybill@...> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 6:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace Rtam (Ritam) is cognate with the English word rhythm and contains the meaning of universal order. Since "mrta" means death - "a-mrta" (amrita) means deathless. You can repeat it all you want, contemplate it in sanyama or whatever and you will not become immortal. These words are not forms of each other. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote: Richard, should we not join this thread with the alchemy thread?! ________________________________ From: Richard J. Williams <punditster@...> To: Richard J. Williams <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace On 9/26/2013 9:25 PM, emptybill@... wrote: Ritam prajna The phrase 'rtam' is related to the 'amrita' mentioned in chapter 17-19 of Mbh - the 'churning of the milk ocean'. According to MMY 'rtamrita' is produced in the human gut during the practice of TM - otherwise called Soma in the Rig Veda. >> >>The most popular version of the Indian myth 'Churning the milk Ocean' is found in the Eighth Canto of the Bhagavata Purana. In Buddhist mythology, Amrita is the drink of the gods, which grants them immortality. >>