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On Sunday, October 13, 2013 8:54:11 AM, Share Long <sharelon...@yahoo.com> 
wrote:
 
  
Ok, emptybill, it's been a long time since I heard about smriti and shruti and 
it looks like no one else is gonna ask so: what is the difference between them?





On Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:41 AM, "emptyb...@yahoo.com" 
<emptyb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
  
Questioner:   So you’re talking about Yoga and Vedanta to
give some sort of context to his enlightement?
 
Ram:  Yes.  Now that Ramana is getting
fame it is rather sad to see all these Western people coming to Tiruvannamalai
with absolutely no notion of the context of his enlightenment and his life,
with no understanding of the depth of the Vedic tradition and burdened with
amazing and ill-considered views of enlightenment based on their Ramana
fantasies.
 
Anyway, Ramana’s
type of realization, because it did not occur at the feet of a guru in a
traditional Vedantic classroom, is more in line with the tradition of Yoga,
although most yogis do not become jnanis as Ramana did.  His lifestyle too, 
sitting in meditation in a
cave, is more typical of the yogic tradition than the Vedantic.  The reason 
yogis do not usually become jnanis is because they have often been confused by 
the language of Yoga
into thinking of enlightenment as a permanent experience of samadhi.  So when 
the experience is ‘on’ they are not
looking to understand anything, they are simply trying to make the state
permanent, sahaja.  The joke is
that enlightenment is not an experience, nor is there any permanent
experience.   Furthermore, they do not
realize that to make an experience permanent one would have to be a doer, an
agent acting on the experience, maintaining it or controlling it or staying in
it … which is a dualistic state, not enlightenment.
 


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