You and Barry have all the earmarks of someone who got kicked out of a mantra yoga cult - in his case twice. And, I'm the one with no sense? Go figure.

On 10/24/2013 6:33 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:

I don't give a shit what you or he thinks or is impressed by and if you had any sense at all, you would realize one doesn't need "knowledge" of mantra yoga to know the deal on this, one only need know cons and con artists when one sees or hears one.
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On Thu, 10/24/13, Richard J. Williams <pundits...@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Misuse of 'Om' As a Mantra for Householders - by His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 24, 2013, 11:07 PM





























Yeah, I'm
sure Michael Dean Goodman is
really impressed with your knowledge of mantra yoga.
LoL!



On 10/24/2013 5:45 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:






This is complete nonsense - Marshy said this
to
differentiate what he taught from what was
commonly
available so he could hood-wink people into
believing he
had a superior product. He continued to use
the very same
scam into his dotage with his lies about south
facing
entrance being inimical to human life. Those
two things
and every thing else in between he claimed to
have the
superior product - and that's what they
were and are
product to be sold.

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On Thu, 10/24/13, Michael Dean Goodman
<tan...@cheerful.com>
wrote:



Subject: [FairfieldLife] Misuse of
'Om' As a Mantra for
Householders - by His Holiness Maharishi
Mahesh Yogi

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

Date: Thursday, October 24, 2013, 9:30 PM





















































The Misuse of

'Om' As a Mantra for

Householders

Excerpt from a talk by His

Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in
1955Published in the
book

Beacon

Light of the Himalayas



If the mind is proceeding

through sound, the field of anoraniyan is

the field which transcends the

field of subtlest sound, which is the field

of "no sound"

("ni-shabdam"); and Upanishads call
it

"paramam padam".  "Nishabdam
paramam

padam".  This paramam padam is

sat-chitananda, in its essential

nature.  The man experiencing it rises to

eter-nal life - a life of eternal

bliss and absolute consciousness.

For training the mind through

sound we can take any word.  Even

the word "mic"

[microphone] can be taken.  By reducing the
sound of

the word "mic" to its

subtler and still subtler stages and allowing
the

mind to go on experiencing all the

stages one by one, the mind can be trained to
be so sharp
as to

enter into the subtlest stage of the

sound 'mic', transcending

which it will automatically get into the realm
of

sat-chit-ananda and experience

it.  Thus we find that any sound can

serve our purpose of training the

mind to become sharp.  But we do

not select the sound at

random.  We do not select any sound like

'mic', 'flower',

'table', 'pen',
'wall', etc.,

because such ordinary sounds can do nothing
more than
merely

sharpening the mind; whereas there

are some special sounds which have

the additional efficacy of
producing vibrations whose
effects are

found to be congenial to our way of

life.  This is the scientific reason

why we do not select any word at

random.  For our practice, we select only

the suitable mantras of personal
gods [fundamental laws of

nature]. Such

mantras fetch to us the grace of personal
gods and make us

happier in every walk of life.

While making a reference to

the mantras, in this manner, I feel

like touching a very vital aspect

of sadhana, which things are blurred in

the present atmosphere of too much

talk of vedanta.

Obviously enough there are two

ways of life, the way of life of a san-yasi
[recluse] and
the way of

life of a householder. One is quite op-posed
to the
other.  A

sanyasi renounces every thing of the

world, whereas a householder needs

and accumulates everything.

Shastras [vedic scriptures] declare

both the ways of life to be the paths of

eman-cipation.  Both are said

to be the moksha-marga [path of liberation]

- nivarthi marga and privathi

marga.  The one realizes through

renun-ciation and detachment, while

the other goes through all

attachments and accumulation of all that

is needed for physical life.

We have two different sets of

mantras to suit the two ways of

life.  Mantras for the sanyasis have

the effect of increasing the sense
of detachment &
renunciation, and

also have the power of destroying the objects
of worldly

affections, if there should survive any

such objects for him.  Quite contrary to
this are the

mantras suitable for the householder, which
have the

efficacy of harmonizing and enrich-ing the
material aspect
of life

also.

The mantras of the sanyasi

have a destructive effect in the

material field of life, whereas the

mantras suited to the householder

envisage constructive values also.



'Om' is the mantra for

the sanyasi.  The sanyasi repeats
'om',

'om', om'.  It is given to him
at the time

of 'sanyas-diksha', at the time when

he has completely renounced

attachment to the world.  Renunciation

and detachment increase with the

repetition of 'om'; 'om' is
chanted

aloud by a sanyasi to put on end to

his desires.  Desire are destroyed

by loudly chanting the mantra

'om'.  And if there is any desire

deeply rooted in the mind of the

sanyasi, the chanting of 'om' will
result

in destruction of the object of

such desire in order to make the

sanyasi wholly desireless.  The

sanyasi attains peace through the

renunciation and destruction of desires,

whereas the peace comes to the house-holder
when his needs
are

satisfied, when his desires are

fulfilled.  The mantras for the

householders have the effect of fulfilling
the

de-sires.

If, unfortunately, the

householder begins to repeat the pranava

mantra 'om', 'om',

'om', he experiences destructive
effects in his

material life.  The effect starts with

monetary loss & then goes on to destroy

objects of affection, one by

one.  Such a man, when he finds loss of

money and separation from the dear

ones, he is reduced to utter peaceless-ness
and
frustration.

Where is the chance of spiritual development

or experience of peace and

happiness for such a dejected soul?

The path of peacelessness and

misery in the world cannot lead to eternal
happiness.  If

the man is proceeding towards eternal

happi-ness, every day he should feel

the increase of peace and happiness, and this
alone will
assure him

that he is proceeding towards abiding peace
and eternal

happiness.  If you walk towards the light

you should be able to feel the

increase of light at every step.

If you are spending some time

in devotion to God, you should feel peace and
happiness in

life.  If you are not feeling peace and

happi-ness you should be wise enough

to doubt the correctness of your devotion,
you should be
wise

enough to think that your method of de-votion
is wrong,
that the

mantras that you are repeating do not suit

you.

The mantras that suit the

sanyasis can never suit the

householders.  Hundreds of God-loving &

God-fearing families have been ruined

due to the destructive effects of

sanyasa mantra 'om'.  'Om'
destroys

de-sires and also destroys the

objects of desires and therefore it

produces calmness of mind and

renunciation and detachment from material

life only to sanyasis when they

repeat 'om'; to them it brings the

experience of peace of mind and from this

experience they generally recommend the
chanting of 'om'

to their followers.

But when a householder repeats

'om', he experiences that as long

as he is repeating 'om'

he feels peace of mind, but when he comes out

to indulge in business or

household work, he finds that the air is

against his desire and schemes.

The silencing effect on the mind and

destruc-tive effects in material life,

both are experienced side by side.

Some people say that we should

ignore material life in regard to
the devotional practices
and

mantras.  But this is a fool's
ideology.  Can

you possibly ignore the

considerations of material life, when the
mantras

do affect it?

Select a path which will make

you happier in your material life also.

Do not live in a fool's

paradise.  Do not think that your sufferings
end

miseries of today will work as

reservations in the galleries of heaven for

tomorrow.  Be peaceful and happy in the

present and try to make this state
perma-nent.  This is
the path of deliverance

in life, jivan-mukti [liberation

while living], the most exalted state in
human

existence, the state of abiding peace and
eternal bliss.

And this you are entitled to

have through correct and suitable

sadhana [spiritual practice].

And because the mantras play an important
role

in the field of sadhana, you must

be very very careful in the selection of

the mantra.  The theory of

mantras is the theory of sound.  It is most

scien-tific and natural.



Ladies should never repeat any

mantra beginning with 'om'.  The

pro-nunciation of 'om' is

like fire to the ladies.  This is the
practical

experience of many devoted ladies who

repeated 'om namah Shivaya'
['om' is

the name of Shiva] or 'om namo

Narayanaya' ['om' is the name of
Narayana

- a form of Vishnu] or 'om

namo bhagavate Vasudevaya' ['om'
is the

name of Lord Vasudeva - a form of

Krishna] or any such mantra beginning

with 'om'.



It cannot be God's wish

that you should suffer in your devotion to

him.  Do not cling to the unhelpful

mantras.  The moment you find you

have got into the wrong train, it

is wise to get down from it as soon as

possible.  It is foolish to stick on to

the wrong train and go wherever it takes

you.

I hold that the devotees of

the almighty God should not suffer at

all.  That is the fundamental

condition of the path to eternal bliss.  I
hold

that bliss or happiness should

increase at every step till we get into the

realm of eternal happiness.  I

hold that the devotees of the God should

enjoy peace and happiness at every

stage, because He is the fountainhead

of all peace and happiness.

It cannot be that our march toward the

light should at any stage increase

the darkness before us.  The

march toward the anant anandam must

give the experience of increase of anandam
[bliss] at
every step

and in every walk of life.

The devotee of the Almighty

cannot suffer.  If he is found to suffer,

he cannot be said to be a devotee

of God.  It pains me when I find

people suffering in the name of God

and devotion.  I offer an open invitation

to such aspirants and seekers of

God.  I invite them to come out of

their miserable devotion, and step

into the peaceful, blissful chambers

of sadhana, blessed and illumined

by the divine radiance of Shri Guru Deva.  I
invite them
to

put an end to their sufferings &

peacelessness and crown their day-to-day

life with success, peace, and joy.  Do

not waste time and life.

Life is to enjoy.  So come on to the field of
all

joy.  The gates of all glories of

life are open for you.  "Make hay when

the sun shines."  Avail

the opportunity in hand and enjoy life to the

fullest.



Jai Guru Dev



Michael

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