Premier League champions Manchester United say Swastika-style logo is "completely inappropriate" http://tinyurl.com/pw8mzz9 http://tinyurl.com/pw8mzz9
Doesn't look like a swastika to me - typical Twitter hysteria. Twitter is becoming ever more like mob rule. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, <s3raphita@...> wrote: Premier League champions Manchester United say Swastika-style logo is "completely inappropriate" http://tinyurl.com/pw8mzz9 http://tinyurl.com/pw8mzz9 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com> wrote: My understanding is that the direction of the swastika "spin" is found in both forms in ancient reliefs. The idea that Hitler got it wrong is just propaganda - highly effective propaganda as so many people believe it. In most (probably all) European countries the display of swastikas is outlawed. I've got a swastika on a Sri Yantra disk and also on some old, pre-war hardback books (fiction titles); they have swastikas on the spine. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, <punditster@...> wrote: According to what I've read, the word 'swastika' does not occur in Vedic Sanskrit. Some of the early examples of the swastika originated in the Indus Valley around 2400 BCE and in south-eastern paleolithic Europe over 10,000 years ago. On 10/25/2013 9:45 PM, wgm4u wrote: The Swastika was a Hindu (now a Vedic Science symbol according to MMY and the new age gurus) representation of the spinning force of Prana, (Gods cosmic power, according to C. lutes) or evolution, unfortunately, (or fortunately), Hitler got it wrong, (ie. backwards). ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, <s3raphita@...> mailto:s3raphita@... wrote: Re "I suggest you try to find another phrase than "national socialism," because historically it's almost exclusively associated with fascism, anti-Semitism, and white supremacy.": True. On a related topic, I do wonder if the swastika can ever be rehabilitated. It has a long history across the world, in many different traditions. In Hinduism, the swastika maybe signifies Ganesha? To let the sign be completely absorbed into Nazi iconography is to give up on a powerful symbol. Maybe one day . . . ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> mailto:authfriend@... wrote: I suggest you try to find another phrase than "national socialism," because historically it's almost exclusively associated with fascism, anti-Semitism, and white supremacy. The term "Nazism" is a contraction of "Nationalsocialismus," the Nazi Party. Modern organizations whose ideology is similar to that of the Nazis incorporate the phrase into their titles to make what they stand for explicit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialism No matter what you mean by "national socialism," folks are going to instinctively recoil from it because of the horrific echoes it evokes (the way a German audience recoiled from Raja Emanuel's use of the term "Invincible Germany," but in this case worldwide). It really can't be sanitized. Maybe in a hundred years when memories have faded, it'll be usable again, but you're asking for trouble if you use it now. Buck wrote: > Yea, a kind of TM national socialism something like with larger human values > that care about neighbors and neighborhood. From the neighborhood up a > national socialism that Cares about the poor, the disabled, those in need by > bringing meditation to everyone in every home to the benefit of everyone.
